Does having AST cancel the possibility to have Time Mage?

[Valic]

I know many want oracle, geomancer, or something else but I've wondered how neat Time Mage would be as a healer job. Something that has SCH's pre-emptive planning but more based around timing of healing. Things like setting someone's default hp to return to t hat spot in 30 seconds, or putting regens on players then fast forwarding them to be a big heal rather than leaving them as a regen. AST seems like it has a general time concept but.... not truly? What are the odds we could see Time Mage given the healers we have and how they function?

[Haxaan]

Ast felt more like a nod to Time Mage in 4.0, but since then they have stripped a lot of the Time Mage feel from the job and focused more on the divination of the cards... well kind of. I wish they would bring it back, because the space and time aspects of the job were fun, but if they don't then I hope we get a proper Time Mage. It would be hard to do though seeing as Ast still has some of Time Mage's core spells like Gravity and "Haste" (lightspeed). You never know though, with the way they change every job each expansion, they very well could strip those spells away to make room for other abilities and bring us an actual Time Mage with it's traditional kit. Only Time will tell.

[Rai_Takara]

Maybe, but lore wise time is part of AST.

Though the removal of elemental stuff for WHM kinda hints at perhaps a Geomancer coming along.

[Valic]

Maybe, but lore wise time is part of AST.

Though the removal of elemental stuff for WHM kinda hints at perhaps a Geomancer coming along.

I still am having trouble imagining how Geomancer would go... At least, how would it be presented as a unique healer ya know?

Not anymore, at least. From 3.0-4.0 time was a big feature in ASTs kit. Extending buffs, timed heals etc.

That's more or less gone in 5.0 and replaced with more generic heals, the only timed spell left is Earthly Star (which doesn't make much sense anymore now that you can't manipulate it's time but that's SE).

That's what I think too.

[Haxaan]

I still am having trouble imagining how Geomancer would go... At least, how would it be presented as a unique healer ya know?

Back when Summoner and Scholar came out and the idea of having jobs that were "split personalities" of eachother a lot of people thought that Geomancer would be the DPS counterpart to WHM. IT would have made perfect sense at the time, but seeing as Yoshi doesn't want any other jobs to split like that it has made it harder to picture it. Also seeing as canonically Geomancer in this game is like a hybrid of WHM and AST it is unlikely that they will bring it in as a playable job, unless they completely retcon the WHM storyline and make it totally light/holy based and transfer all AIR/EARTH/WATER abilities to Geomancer, which is absolutely possible considering the direction certain jobs are going with 5.0

[Exiled_Tonberry]

Not anymore, at least. From 3.0-4.0 time was a big feature in ASTs kit. Extending buffs, timed heals etc.

That's more or less gone in 5.0 and replaced with more generic heals, the only timed spell left is Earthly Star (which doesn't make much sense anymore now that you can't manipulate it's time but that's SE).

[Iscah]

the only timed spell left is Earthly Star (which doesn't make much sense anymore now that you can't manipulate it's time but that's SE).

I don't think it's out of place now - you're not manipulating time, you're just creating a 'bomb' that will take some time to gather energy then release it.

MCH has a similar mechanism despite never having any kind of time control powers. (Matrix-style bullet animations aside...)

[Eloah]

AST still has time elements, they are just a bit more subtle then before. And one of their new skills Horoscope is very Time Mage-esque, in addition to being divining based.

Prior to 5.0 I'd say the odds of a Time Mage being added were basically non-existent. But with the changes they made it's not so hard to see the possibility. But I doubt they would make it a healer.

[Shurrikhan]

Outside of AST, probably, so long as it claims any part of that motif. But it would be possible to have those elements added back to AST, even if not in the same way they were given before.

[Allegor]

AST no longer has time themed spells and WHM no longer has nature themed spells - Time Mage and Geomancer confirmed for 6.0!