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    Player Veis_Alveare's Avatar
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    Veis Alve'are
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    A mentor kicked my dog!

    I mean basically... title?

    Honestly though I can't parse so I acknowledge that I can only tell so much about competence when I'm not playing with a friend who can but even as a healer I've not noticed mentors being specifically worse than other players.

    I just read through another thread about how awful people think mentors are, multiple people claiming they'd never met a competent mentor and like.... bull. I call bull on that. It's just a bold faced lie unless your threshold for competence is sky high.

    Let's look at the requirements to be a mentor; you don't need to be level capped in anything, you don't need to have completed any content that is remotely challenging and there is no "competence test" before joining. You need to have played the game for a little while... that's basically it.

    If SE made being a mentor harder (say... cleared the prior tier's final Savage fight as a new one comes out?) they would not only be invalidating the main purpose of the mentor role (filling queues) but also would invariably receive large scale backlash from the hypercasuals.

    So what is it, community? What do you want from mentors? What makes you happy? Because it seems to me mentors need to be
    • Always able to offer instruction
    • Never give unsolicited instruction
    • Good at all the content (yes, even if they're new to it)
    • Good at whatever job they're playing (even though they might be leveling it still)
    • Patient and willing (and able!) to carry everyone through everything

    When they fall outside of this it's immediately chocked up to this ridiculous standard that maybe .01% of players can actually reach somehow being the baseline for a status that you can get by crafting a couple hundred collectables.

    Chill. The. Fluff. Out. Just because someone has a little crown icon by their name doesn't mean squat in this game and if you're willing to stereotype people for it you're likely no prize yourself.

    GCBTW.
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    MorbolvampireQueen6's Avatar
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    ppl proplem aren't the mentors lol its themself.

    ur expecting them 2 be an angel and perfect social ppl. you realize how thats impossible.

    I'm not a mentor but i have explained fights only 2 be ignored. ive only vked afkers or a few jerks or ppl who go say watch YouTube.
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    As long as no one kicks my byakko cub its cool
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    I think the crown just makes the jerks you encounter stand out.
    Like if someone is nice and helps or at least attempts to and stops if the help isn't wanted nobody remembers. But the person who responds with vitriol and elitism you remember AND notice they're sporting that crown.

    That being said It really isn't hard to be a mentor, but a lot of people think you should be willing to embody the intent of the mentor program if you're gonna tout yourself as one.

    Don't want the pressure? Turn off the crown.
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    LalaRu's Avatar
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    If Mentors just follow the "be exemplar of player etiquette" rule they agreed in order to get the status, I'm fine and have no issues at all with them.

    Maybe some of them have a twisted idea of "player etiquette" but we are not the ones that can correct that... other than reporting, of course.
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    What is a mentor!?

    Quote Originally Posted by Corue View Post
    A miserable little pile of secrets.
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    Last edited by Alucard135; 05-02-2019 at 11:51 PM.

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    Basically, it boils down to "mentor isn't doing what I want them to be doing."

    The last thing I need is another sprout telling me what mentors should do. Especially when they try to throw their interpretation of that same old copypasta from the screen they've never seen before, yet again.
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    Last edited by van_arn; 05-02-2019 at 04:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard135 View Post
    What is a mentor!?
    the member of an old band from seattle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard135 View Post
    What is a mentor!?
    A texan cool man in his 40s or above.

    But more likely what Krotoan said.
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    Last edited by AnnaRosa; 05-02-2019 at 04:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard135 View Post
    What is a mentor!?
    https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...Novice_Network

    TL,DR: Someone who met a bunch of duty requirements to unlock a special marker you can have by your name who supposedly is an experienced player and willing to assist others with content that may be confusing or difficult to them.
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