Healer dps is unfairly boring

[SamRF]

It's unfair in my opinion to people who main healers, how they have to go through solo content. What if they simplified the healing and made their dps a little more fun and engaging so they won't get bored out of their mind when going through solo content and will perhaps also have a much better time in instances since there you also dps more than heal and amount of dps healers put out is of pretty significant importance in high end content. My 2 cents, what do you think?

[DJMau]

So you want healers to have to worry about a DPS rotation on top of being responsible for keeping the party alive? Making one of the most stressful roles in a party into one of the most complex to play at a baseline level would not be a good idea design wise.

[Synaesthesia]

So you want healers to have to worry about a DPS rotation on top of being responsible for keeping the party alive? Making one of the most stressful roles in a party into one of the most complex to play at a baseline level would not be a good idea design wise.

I agree. Doesn't anyone remember Stormblood, when Scholar was statistically unable to clear even simple dungeons because they'd get hung up on the rotation and go into a trance? I remember.

[WaxSw]

So you want healers to have to worry about a DPS rotation on top of being responsible for keeping the party alive? Making one of the most stressful roles in a party into one of the most complex to play at a baseline level would not be a good idea design wise.

YES, right now with scripted damage and how OP the heals are keeping the party alive is not even remotely hard, the only difficult part would be trying to optimize the hardest content and the mechanics of the fight and that can be solved with practice, as they are now healers are a job that gets more and more flat and boring the better you are at it with large amounts of downtime and little to do in them and a more complex dps rotation (or just something that makes the job being something different from 2-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1) would solve that

[Corbeau]

So you want healers to have to worry about a DPS rotation on top of being responsible for keeping the party alive?

Yes.

Making one of the most stressful roles in a party into one of the most complex to play at a baseline level would not be a good idea design wise.

lmao

[Risvertasashi]

So you want healers to have to worry about a DPS rotation on top of being responsible for keeping the party alive? Making one of the most stressful roles in a party into one of the most complex to play at a baseline level would not be a good idea design wise.

In all seriousness: I wouldn't mind a flat increase in healer DPS, across the board.

Some solo instances are tediously slow - it's pretty clear the devs tuned the mobs' TTK around red jobs' output level. Which makes it boring not just because of the single filler nuke - I'd agree that I don't want a more complex rotation to manage on top of savage healing, etc - but because it takes sooo long for some stuff to die.

[SamRF]

So you want healers to have to worry about a DPS rotation on top of being responsible for keeping the party alive? Making one of the most stressful roles in a party into one of the most complex to play at a baseline level would not be a good idea design wise.

This could be partly compensated by simplifying the healing (e.g. removing some support/healing abilities or merging them) so you might get a balanced level of complexity by taking some from the healing and adding it to dps. It also wouldn't be such disaster (except for high end instances perhaps) if you wouldn't be able to dps well as a healer in training, and keeping the party alive would actually be made easier since healing would be more simplified. It doesn't have to be a complex dps rotation, it could be something very simple, but it should at least be worthy of being called a dps rotation in my opinion instead of just spamming 1 ability and occasionally adding a debuff DoT. This could also potentially open the door to introducing more healer jobs since it's much easier to play around with dps variables than finding unique ways to heal while keeping things balanced.

[Risvertasashi]

This could be partly compensated by simplifying the healing (e.g. removing some support/healing abilities or merging them) so you might get a balanced level of complexity by taking some from the healing and adding it to dps.

Oh gods please no. Healing is bad enough as it is, we don't need to start gutting the kit.

[Side-Eye]

This could be partly compensated by simplifying the healing (e.g. removing some support/healing abilities or merging them) so you might get a balanced level of complexity by taking some from the healing and adding it to dps. It also wouldn't be such disaster (except for high end instances perhaps) if you wouldn't be able to dps well as a healer in training, and keeping the party alive would actually be made easier since healing would be more simplified. It doesn't have to be a complex dps rotation, it could be something very simple, but it should at least be worthy of being called a dps rotation in my opinion instead of just spamming 1 ability and occasionally adding a debuff. This could also potentially open the door to introducing more healer jobs since it's much easier to play around with dps variables than finding unique ways to heal while keeping things balanced.

Frankly, "Cleric Stance" was one of the tools meant to supplement healers' DPS when the need for healing wasn't great.

Squeenix screwed this and several other pooches when they decided to homogenize healers and remove utility. AST just felt it the most, since their card system had been an integral part of their utility. Oh well. Wait another year and a half for 6.0 ... and have fun playing tank and dps jobs.

[Billythepancake]

So you want healers to have to worry about a DPS rotation on top of being responsible for keeping the party alive? Making one of the most stressful roles in a party into one of the most complex to play at a baseline level would not be a good idea design wise.

How anyone finds healing in this game stressful, outside of maybe ultimate, is beyond me. You spend 90% of your time dpsing anyway and when you do need to heal you stop dpsing for just a second, use an oGCD, and go back to dpsing. Sometimes if you somehow run out of OGCDS you'll use a GCD. Unless your tank has glass bones and paper skin, or your the kind of healer that has to kiss away any booboo and cant let the tank miss even 10hp, you will be spending the vast majority of your time dpsing as a healer so why shouldnt they have more to do besides spam 1?