Fighting Desperately...

[Chardrizard]

A better point, as far as difficulty, would be to ask: Did you cap all your battlecraft jobs in 2 months? Did you cap every class in the game in 5 months or less? Did you complete all the AF quests in 2 days or less?

Lol, let me get this straight. Levelling up is difficult now? to be honest, i'd rather spam moogle 200 times than going back to FFXI's levelling pace. GOD FIGHTING CRAB FOR 5MIN WAS SO MUCH FUN.

You can also complete AF quest fine in 2 days at FFXI considerin you have help. You won't be able to complete all AF quest in 2 days on FFXIV too if you do not have any help.

You have an unique view of difficulty. Your view might be distorted because of Utsusemi.

[Xoo]

FFXI was difficult on it's own, I saw full alliances wipe on gods back in 2009. XI was difficult and time consuming, in spite of what seem people seem to believe time consumption is a good thing, it keeps you from burning through the entire game's content in 5 minutes. People were getting all AF sets in 2 days, that's ridiculous.

Which is the bigger picture I'm getting at - FFXIV is neither challenging nor time-consuming.

[MeowyWowie]

Yes and egineering them was the difficult part.

To be fair, in your analogy the difficulty of engineering the pyramids would equate to the difficulty in forming strategies for any particular fight. So you're just backing up Xoo's opinion.

You said so yourself that you beat CoP after all the strategies were already formed. Of course it's easy that way, because someone else already did all the hard work for you. The same logic can be applied to Ifrit, Moogle, etc, etc. They might have been somewhat difficult when they were fresh, but now that the strategies are all well known they're a freakin joke.

When content was fresh in XI it was much more difficult than the fresh content in XIV, and that's a fact.

[Peptaru]

You can also complete AF quest fine in 2 days at FFXI considerin you have help. You won't be able to complete all AF quest in 2 days on FFXIV too if you do not have any help.

Return to NPC after JP midnight would like to have a word with you. ^^d

[Chardrizard]

When content was fresh in XI it was much more difficult than the fresh content in XIV, and that's a fact.

Um, i will have to disagree. The only reason they took longer time to defeat because you have silly lock-ups for 24hr up to 72hr on every content.

Return to NPC after JP midnight would like to have a word with you. ^^d

I forgot, let's implement a silly JP midnight lockup for no reason other than making it seems like your contents are actually long and difficult!

[Xoo]

Lol, let me get this straight. Levelling up is difficult now? to be honest, i'd rather spam moogle 200 times than going back to FFXI's levelling pace. GOD FIGHTING CRAB FOR 5MIN WAS SO MUCH FUN.

You can also complete AF quest fine in 2 days at FFXI considerin you have help. You won't be able to complete all AF quest in 2 days on FFXIV too if you do not have any help.

You have an unique view of difficulty. Your view might be distorted because of Utsusemi.

Hah, it's no wonder why you don't agree. If it took your group (or even solo) five minutes to kill a crab, you might want to reconsider your setup and exchange one of those 6 WHM for a DD.

I don't know that anyone can or cannot complete FFXI AF's for 7 jobs in 2 days with or without help, but I know it can absolutely be done in this game much sooner with the same conveniences and resources.

[Ruisu]

1) This game plays nothing like World of Warcraft at all.

2) The graphics aren't that great, and they can look downright awkward at times. There are certainly better things in this game than it's graphical capabilities.

3) FFXI sucks now. Everything after the 2008-9 add ons is piss easy but far more tedious than this game. The community is awful and does nothing to fix the problems in the game either. Unless SE made some pre-2008 servers, you're better off playing this. Removing level capped content, level sync being beyond broken, and having a full alliance sitting around while the tank and healer are the only ones doing anything is not a good game.

[Chardrizard]

Xoo i just went through your background check, did you really just complain about difficulty when you just defeated batraal 2 days ago? have never won any of the latest instanced raid? I really can't give you any credibility at you right now.

You are over glorifying FFXI without the experience of this game at all, you are no better than WoW-players that bashes FFXI. Bashing stuff without prior experience, it's alot of crap in once.

[Xoo]

Suggestion for SE: Re-skin FFXI, include all content up to ToAU and splinter it off from there into content that's more CoP than Abyssea. I'm quite sure you'd regain a new playerbase for it.

[Peptaru]

Part of the ease is that they mark everything on a map for where you need to go, that's some serious spoon-feeding. No one even had to figure that stuff out. FFXIV does -try- to make it harder since they stepped up Dlvl when they dropped mob levels in some places, but that just led to all the broken stats vs. Dlvl arguements like "HP > ALL!" "Block and Meva are useless" and so on.

Short of taking enough damage to one shot, any job can tank in XIV. It just takes two curas instead of one to push their HP to full before the next attack lands. That wasn't at all feasable... feasible? (sp) in XI at all unless half your party was whm or rdm to cure bomb. but with hate decay like it was your mages would die very quickly.

Bring back utsusemi in its pre-nerf goodness! when one shadow would absorb AoE magic, and shadows lost didn't drop your hate and yada yada! (that there's a joke!)