Fighting Desperately...

[ThePatriarch]

Question is, Patriarch, do you feel like you're making those kinds of moments now in XIV? I sure didn't.

No, not even close.

The most memorable event I have experienced in FFXIV was my first Ifrit run. That does not even compare to the glory days of XI.

[TheVedis]

No, not even close.

The most memorable event I have experienced in FFXIV was my first Ifrit run. That does not even compare to the glory days of XI.

unfortunately until we have large scale content we wont see anything of the sort of the old 11 stuff

right now what we are seeing is the equivilent of the zilart missions leading up to sky
and the first 10 rank missions

along with bcnm style fights


which is pretty much what 11 started with and then expanded into, it wasnt til later did we see the huge dynamis, and sky boss battles that really started to get recognized as awesome content

[ThePatriarch]

unfortunately until we have large scale content we wont see anything of the sort of the old 11 stuff

right now what we are seeing is the equivilent of the zilart missions leading up to sky
and the first 10 rank missions

along with bcnm style fights


which is pretty much what 11 started with and then expanded into, it wasnt til later did we see the huge dynamis, and sky boss battles that really started to get recognized as awesome content

I see what you are getting at, and you are partially right.

Final Fantasy XI - Release Date (NA) November, 2002.
Rize of the Zilart (NA) Oct. 28, 2003.
Chains of Promathia (NA) 2004

In 2 years we had 2 full expansion packs. The Zilart/CoP Storyline. Advanced Jobs. Sky/Sea. Ground Kings. So much content. This timeline is all in 2 years. Compare that to XIV.

We are getting to the 2 year mark in XIV, and we have seen nothing even close to the scale of something comparable to RoZ/CoP.

[TheVedis]

I see what you are getting at, and you are partially right.

Final Fantasy XI - Release Date (NA) November, 2002.
Rize of the Zilart (NA) Oct. 28, 2003.
Chains of Promathia (NA) 2004

In 2 years we had 2 full expansion packs. The Zilart/CoP Storyline. Advanced Jobs. Sky/Sea. Ground Kings. So much content. This timeline is all in 2 years. Compare that to XIV.

We are getting to the 2 year mark in XIV, and we have seen nothing even close to the scale of something comparable to RoZ/XI.

all the large scale stuff came right at the end of that 2 years

our 2 year mark will fall right around 2.0 release, so ill reserve judgement for then

of course, 11 didnt have to go through major in game mechanic changes in the process, so i feel weve made some decent progress in the meantime


also, cop DID NOT have sea for almost a year after its release, so 2 years is not a good timeline for that, remember, in 11 expansion did not mean every bit of content released as it was released, it was released on a pattern of 1 mission or so every 2-3 months, which ended up being a really really slow process

so it took almost 2 years to see the first major events(sky gods) show up
a bit after that we saw dynamis
it took over 3 years before we saw sea
almost 4+ years before we saw the completed dynamis


also ground kings are the equivilent of our higher NMs right now, and they were ALL level 50(sorry to burst peoples bubbles who did them at 75 thinking they were still endgame)

[ThePatriarch]

also ground kings are the equivilent of our higher NMs right now, and they were ALL level 50(sorry to burst peoples bubbles who did them at 75 thinking they were still endgame)

If you are telling me that you think our current higher NM's have the equivalency of Ground Kings in FFXI, then sir I'm sorry, but I would love to have whatever drugs you are on.

Yes the level cap was 50, but pre-2004 you RARELY saw ANYONE killing Fafnir or King Behemoth, etc.

Also, if you think they weren't considered endgame at level "75", then again.. lol. Ground Kings were a staple in XI's endgame for 6+ years.

[Enfarious]

I see what you are getting at, and you are partially right.

Final Fantasy XI - Release Date (NA) November, 2002.
Rize of the Zilart (NA) Oct. 28, 2003.
Chains of Promathia (NA) 2004

In 2 years we had 2 full expansion packs. The Zilart/CoP Storyline. Advanced Jobs. Sky/Sea. Ground Kings. So much content. This timeline is all in 2 years. Compare that to XIV.

We are getting to the 2 year mark in XIV, and we have seen nothing even close to the scale of something comparable to RoZ/CoP.

Your leaving out the part well before NA release, from JP release on.

[TheVedis]

Your leaving out the part well before NA release, from JP release on.

in that case his release dates are odd
since zilart shipped with the NA release....

[Enfarious]

in that case his release dates are odd
since zilart shipped with the NA release....

With NA yes, but JP had FFXI in it's base state for a year and a half or so before it was released in NA, which is how it was released here w/ Zilart.

[TheVedis]

With NA yes, but JP had FFXI in it's base state for a year and a half or so before it was released in NA, which is how it was released here w/ Zilart.

know i played it since jp release, but my point was the dates mr "11 is awesome and 14 sucks" up there posted had the na classic and zilart releases a year apart also

[ThePatriarch]

Your leaving out the part well before NA release, from JP release on.

I made a typo, JP release date was November 2002.

My point still stands. Within 2 years, there were 2 full expansion packs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XI