Fighting Desperately...

[ArnoMorley]

I love this game 13$ a month is nothing to me an I'm lucky to have had a great life thus far my friend. You guys can cry about 6$ a month and how you're going to quit but reply to all threads. Now excuse me while I take my beautiful Japanese wife to wrestle mania for the night. Lol, peace

Wrestle mania huh? something tells me his wife is his right hand.

I don't think anybody said they were going to quit either, people are voicing their thoughts. We're sticking around to make the game better, we're discussing what we don't like about it to make it better. If they don't make it better then people might quit, but who the hell are you to put words in people's mouths and set the tone for what they're saying?

[Enfarious]

Really simple math here:
Direction_of_devs = Majority_Opinion + What_Keeps_ppl_playing;
If the majority of players are SCREAMING we want a more "dedicated" style of play, in other words: things take longer to achieve, not goin 1~50 in a week or less. That's precisely what they should be looking to deliver. If those that played pre-abyssea ffxi are screaming they want dynamis like EG content, where time/strategy/return trips/farming runs are worth more but take significantly more time and energy, AND that is the majority opinion then again, that should be delivered.
If the majority are more interested in pretty pictures and overnight I have everything play styles, sadly that's what should be delivered.
I believe, just because I tend to read every post, that the majority is leaning toward more "rewarding", more "work", more "time" play styles, of course I may be deluded by the wool I wear over my own eyes.

Another bit of simple math:
Longer_Subs = Time_to_reach_EG_content + Time_needed_to_complete_100_percent_EG_content;
Pretty pictures during the trip help, but if we clear everything a month after it's released and this is the trend they go with, and expansions are yearly, on the avg. a player will play for a month, then cancel to wait for the next expansion play a month ... you get the picture, I hope.
Good business sense tells you that a longer lived expansion makes ya more money, being able to have every bit of uber gear in a month screams "We're stupid and don't want people to pay all year long!"

[Crysten]

I am not. I am speaking for those who have shared the same frustrating experience I have. Are you not guilty of exactly the same? - professing your experience as an all-encompassing gospel?

If you wish to point out exactly where I'm saying my opinion is "the" opinion, go right ahead. I'm saying my experience was different to yours, therefore to generalize and put everyone into the same basket is a flawed basis for an argument.

Just because I portray a very different experience to yourself, it does not make my opinion any less valid.

And do you realize how much the promotion, proficiency and abuse of Powerleveling totally negates this design philosophy? As well, the sheer magnitude of EXP that stoods to be gained in the Strongholds at Lv40-50?

Anytime you wish to give me a reasonable counter argument to illustrate how this incapacitates your/anyone's ability to solo or party play your way to 50 if they so wish, as well as enter raids like Toto-rak during midgame, by all means let me know.

If shouts on Gungnir over the last week have been any indication, parties are formed all the time now.

Widespread appeal = more money, period. The fact that people that once played XI have grown is a moot point. Generations follow one another.

And this is a bad point because...?

SE does not give a crap about what you want. They give a crap about what makes them money, and WoW is currently "the way to make money." Do you follow the model with the currently stagnating game with around <300k subscribers or do you follow the model with the currently stagnating game with over 9 million subscribers?

If you say the former, you need to rethink what businesses actually do.

Nobody fed it to you. You fed yourself.

Right back at you concerning this game.

If the only thing people care about is killing NM's, running Dungeons and uber loot, then let's just start the game at Lv50. Screw the rest.

But...there is content for people on the way to 50 if people wish to do it.

Some people want to reach endgame in the shortest amount of time possible.

Some people wish to smell the roses, experience everything the game has to offer and take it slow.

This game actually strikes a pretty nice balance here at the moment.

Just because you seemingly have a problem with the former should not give you the right to impose the latter,

People have different opinions and wish to play the game their own way. What part of this do you not comprehend?

[Xoo]

If you wish to point out exactly where I'm saying my opinion is "the" opinion, go right ahead. I'm saying my experience was different to yours, therefore to generalize and put everyone into the same basket is a flawed basis for an argument.

Just because I portray a very different experience to yourself, it does not make my opinion any less valid.



Anytime you wish to give me a reasonable counter argument to illustrate how this incapacitates your/anyone's ability to solo or party play your way to 50 if they so wish, as well as enter raids like Toto-rak during midgame, by all means let me know.

If shouts on Gungnir over the last week have been any indication, parties are formed all the time now.



And this is a bad point because...?

SE does not give a crap about what you want. They give a crap about what makes them money, and WoW is currently "the way to make money." Do you follow the model with the currently stagnating game with around <300k subscribers or do you follow the model with the currently stagnating game with over 9 million subscribers?

If you say the former, you need to rethink what businesses actually do.



Right back at you concerning this game.



But...there is content for people on the way to 50 if people wish to do it.

Some people want to reach endgame in the shortest amount of time possible.

Some people wish to smell the roses, experience everything the game has to offer and take it slow.

This game actually strikes a pretty nice balance here at the moment.

Just because you seemingly have a problem with the former should not give you the right to impose the latter,

People have different opinions and wish to play the game their own way. What part of this do you not comprehend?

You sure are talking like I need to stfu and gtfo with the things I've said because you've had no trouble in regard to the things I've mentioned. What I'm saying is, is the more you grease the rail from the beginning of the game through Lv50, the more endgame you're going to need to come up with - and fast. My OP stated, "I suppose it just makes better sense to milk the cow and market the milk". R.J. Reynolds & Co. makes money off marketing cigarettes to healthy human beings.

[DeadRiser]

All I want is some harder content that won't be completed in a couple hours after release.

Less grind with getting drops.

And more tough content. I'm not talking about throwing 50 mobs at a party at once. I'm talking about some strategy with all mobs.

I never played XI and don't plan to. We are all entitled to our opinions but leave XI to itself. This is XIV. I think they are going in a great way... just let them get there first.

[Valmonte]

SE does not give a crap about what you want. They give a crap about what makes them money, and WoW is currently "the way to make money." Do you follow the model with the currently stagnating game with around <300k subscribers or do you follow the model with the currently stagnating game with over 9 million subscribers?

If you say the former, you need to rethink what businesses actually do.

this is why this game is already slated for death, how many successful WoW clones have you seen that have succeeded in the long run....ill give you a hint, its the #0.

FFWoW will be no exception, the wow fans will come bitch for 2 years about how hard its is to get there goobue mount. Then once they've derailed the game dissecting it piece by piece and changing its development processes they will do what all WoW fans do GO back to wow as its will remain the only game that actually wipes your ass for you.

[Andrien]

this is why this game is already slated for death, how many successful WoW clones have you seen that have succeeded in the long run....ill give you a hint, its the #0.

FFWoW will be no exception, the wow fans will come bitch for 2 years about how hard its is to get there goobue mount. Then once they've derailed the game dissecting it piece by piece and changing its development processes they will do what all WoW fans do GO back to wow as its will remain the only game that actually wipes your ass for you.

I don't comment on speculations but, Goobue mount is available for a limited time only because no one will be able to get it after 2.0

[Valmonte]

I don't comment on speculations but, Goobue mount is available for a limited time only because no one will be able to get it after 2.0

seems you didn't get the indirect sarcasm, 80% of WoW players are just too stupid to talk/interact with anything at all. they would rather the goobue go strait into you mountables inventory than actually quest for it, yes they're that Stupid/lazy or god help us a combination of both.

[ZakarnRosewood]

I wouldnt expect too much content between now and 2.0 what would be the point? the maps are changing, the UI is changing, the client is changing, the servers are changing, etc. they will add some content but i wouldnt expect them to sink a metric ton of content into something that is, for all intents and purposes, designed to tide us over till the release of Yoshi P's FFXIV. its good to raise awareness and hopes for what you want the game to be like but stop getting your knickers in a knot over what a loaf of bread tastes like when it hasnt even gone in the oven yet.

[Xoo]

Doesn't take a genius to figure out without looking what's baking in the oven before you lay eyes on it, let alone tongue.