Fighting Desperately...

[Galoot]

Not really Bunto, it's our way of venting our frustration of not having the same experience we were expecting when getting into FFXIV. I feel that all of the negative posters didn't have the wherewithal to push through levels and actually work towards something, just want everything handed to them. But seriously congrats on Lv50 THM, how long that take you? Three or four days? I wouldn't mind going back to how slow it was in the beginning when it took us 3-4 months to level something to 50, but the "whiners" spoke and the whole system turned into PL fest. What's the accomplishment in leveling when you can max everything in a month...

[YUGON]

Not really Bunto, it's our way of venting our frustration of not having the same experience we were expecting when getting into FFXIV. I feel that all of the negative posters didn't have the wherewithal to push through levels and actually work towards something, just want everything handed to them. But seriously congrats on Lv50 THM, how long that take you? Three or four days? I wouldn't mind going back to how slow it was in the beginning when it took us 3-4 months to level something to 50, but the "whiners" spoke and the whole system turned into PL fest. What's the accomplishment in leveling when you can max everything in a month...

Totally agree! Still there are some people that hate PL, and are leveling their jobs the "good" way. Still is a pain in the ass to level up Levequesting, but still, I prefer doing that way rather than have ALL jobs at 50 in a week.

[Xoo]

Yugon, you have to understand that it doesn't make much sense when you post this:

Rly, If u want to go back to FFXI, just go. No one is posting everything they wanna do.

And then you "totally agree!" with this:

Not really Bunto, it's our way of venting our frustration of not having the same experience we were expecting when getting into FFXIV. I feel that all of the negative posters didn't have the wherewithal to push through levels and actually work towards something, just want everything handed to them. But seriously congrats on Lv50 THM, how long that take you? Three or four days? I wouldn't mind going back to how slow it was in the beginning when it took us 3-4 months to level something to 50, but the "whiners" spoke and the whole system turned into PL fest. What's the accomplishment in leveling when you can max everything in a month...

Sort of sending mixed messages there, bud.

[YUGON]

Yugon, you have to understand that it doesn't make much sense when you post this:



And then you "totally agree!" with this:



Sort of sending mixed messages there, bud.

I agreed with the "irony" of "Grats on your THM50! etc.." in the way that playing that way is not like playing (personal opinion). I do not want to go back to FFXI. That game had it's time, and now is XIV time, but that doesn't mean that EVERYONE has to make a post to tell that "they want to go back to FFXI because....", because is the same that "Please, implement "whatever FFXI had" threads.

Hope you understand me better. If not... Sorry! xD

[Xoo]

I agreed with the "irony" of "Grats on your THM50! etc.." in the way that playing that way is not like playing (personal opinion). I do not want to go back to FFXI. That game had it's time, and now is XIV time, but that doesn't mean that EVERYONE has to make a post to tell that "they want to go back to FFXI because....", because is the same that "Please, implement "whatever FFXI had" threads.

I understand and agree that I don't have any special entitlements in posting this thread, yet, the true point of it was to get people talking. It was meant as a catalyst. Even a TROLL THREAD, if you choose to see it that way. Only in this thread's last 2-3 pages has it emerged from the flame-war and the endless, inevitable debate over the difference between 'time-sink' and 'challenge'. Notice that by my second or third post, I let go of that argument, because that's not the issue I intended this thread to settle.