Healer dps is unfairly boring

[Sloprano]

The thing is, given how healing is designed in this game and how often healing downtime occurs, micromanaging a healing fairy while spamming broil and biolysis would essentially be as boring as what we do now. If anything it's exactly what we do now.

I find it more worth to look at how the fights and jobs are, what's been constant are the fights, what's changed is what we have available at any moment on the jobs. And it's true, giving back manual embrace and increase it's potency would mean maybe more Broils. But thats because that is just one little thing. Like how Energy Drain was a little thing. And how Miasma 2 was a little thing. But both meant a lot in the grand scheme of playing.

Scholar was a little universe of little things and I couldn't give you one single thing that made or broke the job, only that in it's current form have instead a little group of big things that won't be of much use when healing isn't needed. As almost every change with 4.0 and beyond, we've seen them pick at SCH to reveal the healer beneath, removing pieces by pieces, replacing with cooldowns in the form of Excog, Fey Blessing, Seraph and Sacred Soil after the trait. Cooldowns are powerful, but leaves us with less in the moment to moment decisions after the cooldown is on cooldown.

A debuff management system would be cool something that expanded on what we had in form of Malady, Heavy, Slow, Blind, Virus, E4E, Silence. Idea thats been floating here is stratagmens or plans combo system you mix and match with to produce a debuff or attack.

If the fairies stayed as they were: One healing one support, it wouldn't be more a problem than just settle for Eos to help out healing. This is something can could be reasonably expanded to aswell, not just healing/support but also give various effects to existing skills to expand our repetoire depending if we have our Sun or Moon out without increasing the amount of buttons.

[Synaesthesia]

So you want healers to have to worry about a DPS rotation on top of being responsible for keeping the party alive? Making one of the most stressful roles in a party into one of the most complex to play at a baseline level would not be a good idea design wise.

I agree. Doesn't anyone remember Stormblood, when Scholar was statistically unable to clear even simple dungeons because they'd get hung up on the rotation and go into a trance? I remember.

[Videra]

I agree. Doesn't anyone remember Stormblood, when Scholar was statistically unable to clear even simple dungeons because they'd get hung up on the rotation and go into a trance? I remember.

Also this post from page 1 is such a "Lmao what" thing to read. SCH trivialized dungeons in stormblood while doing significantly more DPS than other healers. Just pointing this weirdness out.

[SweetestLily]

It's unfair in my opinion to people who main healers, how they have to go through solo content. What if they simplified the healing and made their dps a little more fun and engaging so they won't get bored out of their mind when going through solo content and will perhaps also have a much better time in instances since there you also dps more than heal and amount of dps healers put out is of pretty significant importance in high end content. My 2 cents, what do you think?

They're not going to do this because it would be a direct contradiction to what Yoshi P himself has been telling the playerbase. That he wants healers to focus more on healing and that dps isn't mandatory but optional. Not saying I agree with this sentiment, but I doubt he's going to backtrack on his word.

[Crushnight]

They're not going to do this because it would be a direct contradiction to what Yoshi P himself has been telling the playerbase. That he wants healers to focus more on healing and that dps isn't mandatory but optional. Not saying I agree with this sentiment, but I doubt he's going to backtrack on his word.

Then he either needs to force better encounter design around all the healing tools that have started making the gcd heals redundant or back track on his word for the health of the healer role.

[SweetestLily]

Then he either needs to force better encounter design around all the healing tools that have started making the gcd heals redundant or back track on his word for the health of the healer role.

I'm in full agreement here. He says one thing, but the way that encounters are designed encourages a completely opposite playstyle. On the other hand you'll have people crying that the fights "too hard" if they up the healing required.

[MuseTraveller]

Healing is only stressful when you don't use your tool kit right. Spamming cure 1/cure2 and their equivalents in later content is indeed stressful but you have so much more to keep everyone healed which leaves you to dps ... which is 1 skill, 1 dot, 1 aoe ... and WHM's blood lily skill. It will be nice to get a bit more again at least on SCH cause that has always been the more DPS-y job.

[tikiwiki]

It's unfair in my opinion to people who main healers, how they have to go through solo content. What if they simplified the healing and made their dps a little more fun and engaging so they won't get bored out of their mind when going through solo content and will perhaps also have a much better time in instances since there you also dps more than heal and amount of dps healers put out is of pretty significant importance in high end content. My 2 cents, what do you think?

we could also just have one healer with things like more complicated dps have different classes in the same role appeal to different niches instead of all being the same.

[Malmstrom]

To be fair... people fuck up everything in this game. You can have a quest that only has you walk for 2 mins and you'll still get people who will cry that is too hard and mess it up.

Run or RP walk? If I have to RP walk for two minutes I'm tapping out.

[monk-dps]

Run or RP walk? If I have to RP walk for two minutes I'm tapping out.

I won't comment on that but I will say I'll never forget one time in rath I had someone ask me how to click on him to mount him. Like... they were seriously lost and didn't know how to click on him. I wish I was making this up.