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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalukai View Post
    Please stop gender locking seasonal/ANY gear.

    Let the gents have dresses, let the gals have shirts. After this many years, it's more than time to do away with the gender-restriction-on-gear thing.
    Gents got the 2B dress and I have seen like 2 male characters wear it. I have seen zero guys wear the bunny costume since ShB launched. Why exactly does a 1% minority need the same amount of glamour as normal people? It takes resources and we probably wouldn't get two versions of an outfit. We didn't get a masculine counterpart for the level 1 cosmetic 2B set, for example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Gents got the 2B dress and I have seen like 2 male characters wear it. I have seen zero guys wear the bunny costume since ShB launched. Why exactly does a 1% minority need the same amount of glamour as normal people? It takes resources and we probably wouldn't get two versions of an outfit. We didn't get a masculine counterpart for the level 1 cosmetic 2B set, for example.
    Yeah, I see both sides of this.

    Like, I KNOW the reason I'd like for items to not be gender-restricted is because I play a female. I would LOVE to have the choice between a dress and that spiffy vest. But asking for that is laterally asking them to work twice as hard on this event gear by making 2 outfits that everyone can wear. And really, how many male characters are ever gonna go for the dress?

    Then there's the issue with the 2B outfit cases. Like, people can go "YAY, progress!" all they want for getting a crossplay glam for guys but ... what about the vast majority of male players&characters who have no interest in their character wearing a 2B dress? I've legit seen people upon release of the raid talk about how they rolled on it expecting to get some cool male version of 2B glam only to find that they have a crossplay and ended up being very let down by it cause they would never wear that. Like with this event, if they just made a dress that both genders could wear then yay ... right? But what about people who don't want to dress their dude up in a dress? Nothing that appeals to them?


    I feel like this is something better done on the side. Like, data-miners know that they have worked on unrestricting a number of currently restricted glams that they just haven't unlocked yet so perhaps they're having a side team work on it or it's just really low on their list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    Then there's the issue with the 2B outfit cases. Like, people can go "YAY, progress!" all they want for getting a crossplay glam for guys but ... what about the vast majority of male players&characters who have no interest in their character wearing a 2B dress? I've legit seen people upon release of the raid talk about how they rolled on it expecting to get some cool male version of 2B glam only to find that they have a crossplay and ended up being very let down by it cause they would never wear that. Like with this event, if they just made a dress that both genders could wear then yay ... right? But what about people who don't want to dress their dude up in a dress? Nothing that appeals to them?
    Honestly idk, the actual raid jobs function similarly as a cool variants of the outfits based on 9S for guys, and I feel like the coffer at the end will get equivalents for other Automata characters in the following parts of the raids. I mean the 2B dress is great but I really prefer having 9S' outfit as a girl, it doesn't really bug me cause lots of friends with both male and female characters are having a good time with it to this day, and I'm fairly certain I'll get what I want in the 2nd or 3rd parts of the raid. *shrugs*

    I understand having this special drop be ultimately useless to you stinks but not everything will work for you, there's tons of rarely used pieces of glam items and gear that are also gender restricted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zysets View Post
    Honestly idk, the actual raid jobs function similarly as a cool variants of the outfits based on 9S for guys, and I feel like the coffer at the end will get equivalents for other Automata characters in the following parts of the raids. I mean the 2B dress is great but I really prefer having 9S' outfit as a girl, it doesn't really bug me cause lots of friends with both male and female characters are having a good time with it to this day, and I'm fairly certain I'll get what I want in the 2nd or 3rd parts of the raid. *shrugs*

    I understand having this special drop be ultimately useless to you stinks but not everything will work for you, there's tons of rarely used pieces of glam items and gear that are also gender restricted.
    "the actual raid jobs function similarly as a cool variants of the outfits based on 9S for guys" this seems fairly disingenuous. Like, say there simply wasn't a coffer at the end ... sure, all the female gear is based on 2B but people would still be asking for the direct 1:1 2B glam. And though I also assumed that we would get 9S glam for the next part there's no guarantee of that. This whole raid is unprecedented (never have we even had dye-able 24 men raid gear or even a special glam coffer for example)
    This coffer drop might just be a 1 time deal to please everyone who wanted 2B glam by putting it in the raid people will have to run more than any other (to better the chances of everyone getting it) with the next raid being a mount in place of the coffer and the one after that being a 2B hair style. OR they could make other iconic females glams like A2.

    Anyway, my point was that this is a fairly uneven issue.
    Gendered versions of gear is there to appease as many as possible. So I see unrestricting them as something that could and should be worked on in the background as opposed to doing twice the work at the time of release OR having a 2B glam problem with events where a clearly female glam leaves a large portion of dude characters thinking they got nothing.
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