Mentors...please!

[RajNish]

By the way, do sprouts who have a "bad day" think that there may be a mentor with disabilities on the other side of the screen? Strange how some people so far have used this as a reason to attack mentors and their actions, but the opposite hasn't been rarely mentioned. ._. There are two sides to every coin, making assumptions on either side is not the way to solve that. Every situation has its own circumstances, the large amount of generalizations going on in this thread has been...disheartening.

I can’t speak for all the sprouts, but as a person who has friends with disabilities and had co-players with disabilities in the raid team (in the previous game), I can say about myself, yes, I think about such players. And I know that every "idiot" can hurt such a person.

[SoranRigel]

And I know that every "idiot" can hurt such a person.

An every "idiot" can hurt any person, regardless of their nationality and language, as well as physical capabilities.

That's why it's so strange for me to see suggestions here that in a situation where player X (mentor or not) insults player Y, it's player Y's fault, and player X just had a "bad day".
An insult is an insult, by words or actions, but unfortunately, not all of them can be a reason for a report.

[AmeliaVerves]

player X (mentor or not) insults player Y, it's player Y's fault, and player X just had a "bad day".

An insult should be reported and handled by the gamemasters accordingly, I think it's safe to say noone would argue that.
But as it was stated: plain leaving content as a mentor (without saying a word) is not an insult in any kind of way and should not be reportable. The person is taking the 30min penalty for leaving which is how it is intended by the devs. Everyone should just leave it at that and move on.

[RajNish]

We don’t know anything at all. The reports go into the void, we get automatic "add his to blacklist" tips.

These tips would be helpful if a blacklist could really eliminate the chance of meeting this player. However, it does not work like in other games. You may not see chat messages, but you will see trolling through game actions, for example. Most likely, the changes to the blacklist function could solve most of these problems and the number of reports would be significantly reduced, except in special cases.

[Banriikku]

Still going ?
In my opinion the majority of sprouts and returner are toxic. And Mentors are suffering from this.
Funny or not ? You cant prove me wrong because i made a statement wich cant be checked. Furthermore my statement leaves yOu only the option of supporting me or supporting toxic behavior. That is very manipulative . Next is what makes your opinion true or even more important then mine or anyone elses?

[RajNish]

Still going ?
In my opinion the majority of sprouts and returner are toxic. And Mentors are suffering from this.
Funny or not ? You cant prove me wrong because i made a statement wich cant be checked. Furthermore my statement leaves yOu only the option of supporting me or supporting toxic behavior. That is very manipulative . Next is what makes your opinion true or even more important then mine or anyone elses?

When the community as a whole is toxic, everyone suffers. All this is very symptomatic in fact. There is no healthy equality, a lot of elitism, passive and active aggression, greed and selfishness.

[AmeliaVerves]

When the community as a whole is toxic, everyone suffers. All this is very symptomatic in fact. There is no healthy equality, a lot of elitism, passive and active aggression, greed and selfishness.

Even tho I am not the most social person and usually stay for myself, I think this community in general is very polite and helpful. Most people at least try to help or guide you somewhere you might find help/information.
And even tho I cringe a lot about NN, I guess ppl use it frequently bc they find it helpful or like the social aspect about it.

The negative things you just mentioned are generally frowned upon by every sub-comm this game has, but you always find a few bad apples. Doesn't mean it's fair to generalize that much.

[Banriikku]

When the community as a whole is toxic, everyone suffers. All this is very symptomatic in fact. There is no healthy equality, a lot of elitism, passive and active aggression, greed and selfishness.

I say your are selfish, i say you are elitist. You say this is "xxx" and must be true because "yyy" wich cant be checked. You behave as if you were the prosecutor and judge in one person. You make general statements and avoid my and others questions. Besides what you are refering to sounds more like social problem and is so generally held that you could apply this to everything in our society. So can we now talk about why you think that the majority of mentors are toxic or is this just "vent against the mentor" thread now and we just trash talk a spezific player group?

Next is the voluntary Isolation: Every single player has his knicks and knacks and even when no one is doing something wrong we dont like each other. Also every player does things at diffrent pace, with diffrent viewpoints and so on. Thats reality. I dont play Mentor roulette or in PF Groups because i dont like some player behavior. So this makes the comm toxic ? I expect player to look guides before going in the PF and know what they are doing, i expect players to be good at their job - does this apply as default? No.Why should this be so? What makes me or you so god damn special that we can demand this ? I dont see your reasons besides " i am right and you are wrong".

[RajNish]

I say your are selfish, i say you are elitist. You say this is "xxx" and must be true because "yyy" wich cant be checked. You behave as if you were the prosecutor and judge in one person. You make general statements and avoid my and others questions. Besides what you are refering to sounds more like social problem and is so generally held that you could apply this to everything in our society. So can we now talk about why you think that the majority of mentors are toxic or is this just "vent against the mentor" thread now and we just trash talk a spezific player group?

Next is the voluntary Isolation: Every single player has his knicks and knacks and even when no one is doing something wrong we dont like each other. Also every player does things at diffrent pace, with diffrent viewpoints and so on. Thats reality. I dont play Mentor roulette or in PF Groups because i dont like some player behavior. So this makes the comm toxic ? I expect player to look guides before going in the PF and know what they are doing, i expect players to be good at their job - does this apply as default? No.Why should this be so? What makes me or you so god damn special that we can demand this ? I dont see your reasons besides " i am right and you are wrong".

I already answered your comments when they were constructive. And honestly, I do not want to swear with you. As the Buddha said: “Take yours to yourself” and do whatever you want with it.

[Wiccan692015]

If i may put my two cents into this, i Honestly just don't understand how someone has the time to become a Mentor, i would love to be a mentor but coms are not as easy to come by as one might think, im a scholar healer, and a damn good one too if you talk to anyone i've ever healed for but coms can only be gotten at random and not by anyone you really know because basically only strangers give you them and most people don't bother with it anymore, so if someone has that many coms then they have earned the right to be called a mentor. though some might not deserve it, it sucks that you have gotten crappy mentors though, i would encourage you to look around for a progression FC that caters to People who want to learn mechs for every dungeon, raid, trial, etc. there is at least a few on just about every server im sure, so maybe try that?