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    Quote Originally Posted by Neoom View Post
    Nothing shame on it, I didn't start as a great healer so nothing wrong with it. But what I did learn is to communicate with the tank, "I'm not comfortable with big pulls", or "I'm not geared enough for bigger pulls, please pull less". IF the tank doesn't listen, kick. If they throw an insult, kick AND report. But do try to communicate your limits, all you need to say is "pull small please", most people listen. Since you have something limiting your gameplay it's important to make sure you don't have to "over do" yourself, but nothing else works than communicating with your party/tank.
    I'm not bad with large pulls now, cause practice, practice and practice. Not fine with all, but usually I can handle most of them. I know how tank and healing mechanics work. Your advice is useful, and special thanks for it. No jokes and irony. But not everyone listens "pull small please". I’ll only say that I wrote reports about all these people, but I don’t know what result it had. Well, you understand, I hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RajNish View Post
    I'm not bad with large pulls now, cause practice, practice and practice. Not fine with all, but usually I can handle most of them. I know how tank and healing mechanics work. Your advice is useful, and special thanks for it. No jokes and irony. But not everyone listens "pull small please". I’ll only say that I wrote reports about all these people, but I don’t know what result it had. Well, you understand, I hope.
    I know, that's why i said if they don't listen, you have every right to kick, you know your own limits and if you told them that and they ignore it, get a new tank/healer who ever didn't respect your limits. And yes I do understand, trust me I do. You can only hope the report goes through, even when you don't know what penalty (if any) the player got.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neoom View Post
    I know, that's why i said if they don't listen, you have every right to kick, you know your own limits and if you told them that and they ignore it, get a new tank/healer who ever didn't respect your limits. And yes I do understand, trust me I do. You can only hope the report goes through, even when you don't know what penalty (if any) the player got.
    I'm glad we understood each other, really. Not so long ago, I told another tank that he took too much and asked him not to do this anymore, because I did not have the opportunity to keep him alive, especially without his CD's. He said, "I don't care, others did it". I just left the group and waited for my penalty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RajNish View Post
    I just left the group and waited for my penalty.
    Still, the fact that the fine goes to a player who doesn't break the rules is something very strange from a moral point of view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoranRigel View Post
    Still, the fact that the fine goes to a player who doesn't break the rules is something very strange from a moral point of view.
    Yep. Probably due to passivity, some players are used to being rude, while others are used to enduring. It is not necessary to love the whole world, it is enough to be polite and effective.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neoom View Post
    In this case the penalty feels bad, and I have been in same spot, it sucks it really does. But if others refuse to kick them there isn't really much to do after that :c But knowing changing the kick system would break things since it already can be abused by group of friends who decide they don't like you.. But doesn't mean it's prefect either, far from it..
    Any system can be abused, to be honest. You will not find the perfect system, only a compromise. Actually, I proposed a compromise. Do not remove the crown icon, but replace it with a watering can. Make it possible to send a quick harassment report by right-clicking. Make blacklist really work. It would be nice to make a separate reputation for mentors, but I don’t know how SE can do it technically, which I just as honestly said here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RajNish View Post
    I'm glad we understood each other, really. Not so long ago, I told another tank that he took too much and asked him not to do this anymore, because I did not have the opportunity to keep him alive, especially without his CD's. He said, "I don't care, others did it". I just left the group and waited for my penalty.
    In this case the penalty feels bad, and I have been in same spot, it sucks it really does. But if others refuse to kick them there isn't really much to do after that :c But knowing changing the kick system would break things since it already can be abused by group of friends who decide they don't like you.. But doesn't mean it's prefect either, far from it..
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