Mentors...please!

[RajNish]

First of all, there is no ''tactics'' to normal big pulls in dungeons.

If the DPS of the group is very low, as was the case, the pulls should be smaller. If your DPS do not cope, but you continue to pull from wall to wall, then something is wrong with your understanding of the situation.

[Neoom]

If the DPS of the group is very low, as was the case, the pulls should be smaller. If your DPS do not cope, but you continue to pull from wall to wall, then something is wrong with your understanding of the situation.

How is that ''tactics'' tho? That doesn't equal bad dps, that means there is something gimmicky in the pull (a bear that hits like a truck, or some trash do ''tank busters'') that's tactics, not ''dps is low can't pull that big''. Of course you should realize to pull small if dps is low, but not every tank does that, some of them will pull big anyway, mentor or not.

[RajNish]

How is that ''tactics'' tho? That doesn't equal bad dps, that means there is something gimmicky in the pull (a bear that hits like a truck, or some trash do ''tank busters'') that's tactics, not ''dps is low can't pull that big''. Of course you should realize to pull small if dps is low, but not every tank does that, some of them will pull big anyway, mentor or not.

Ah, yes. Britannica will help us with this.

The word tactics originates in the Greek taxis, meaning order, arrangement, or disposition—including the kind of disposition in which armed formations used to enter and fight battles. From this, the Greek historian Xenophon derived the term tactica, the art of drawing up soldiers in array. Likewise, the Tactica, an early 10th-century handbook said to have been written under the supervision of the Byzantine emperor Leo VI the Wise, dealt with formations as well as weapons and the ways of fighting with them.

The term tactics fell into disuse during the European Middle Ages. It reappeared only toward the end of the 17th century, when “Tacticks” was used by the English encyclopaedist John Harris to mean “the Art of Disposing any Number of Men into a proposed form of Battle.” Further development took place toward the end of the 18th century. Until then, authors had considered fighting to be almost the sum total of war; now, however, it began to be regarded as merely one part of war. The art of fighting itself continued to carry the name tactics, whereas that of making the fight take place under the most favourable circumstances, as well as utilizing it after it had taken place, was given a new name: strategy.

Knowing how many opponents you can take, how to position yourself, how many DPS you have and what do with it. I hope everything is clear to you now.

[Neoom]

Knowing how many opponents you can take, how to position yourself, how many DPS you have and what do with it. I hope everything is clear to you now.

Thank you for explaining this to such a dummy as myself
Explain this to every tank main who pulls big, their only tactic they know is to pull from wall to wall. What explaining is there to do? You didn't state was the dps bad, just because they didn't do AoE or just generally low since gear or some other reasons. So were are missing information here, and it doesn't need a mentor to say ''use AoE skills to kill stuff''

[RajNish]

Thank you for explaining this to such a dummy as myself
Explain this to every tank main who pulls big, their only tactic they know is to pull from wall to wall. What explaining is there to do? You didn't state was the dps bad, just because they didn't do AoE or just generally low since gear or some other reasons. So were are missing information here, and it doesn't need a mentor to say ''use AoE skills to kill stuff''

You try to talk to me over and over again only for argue. It's maybe a cute, but I'm not interested, sorry. Try to make a run from door to gate (with gun) after the second boss in Ala Mhigo, with first timers, in a 310 IL, without stopping, collecting all the AOEs and mobs.

[RyuSaarva]

You try to talk to me over and over again only for argue. It's maybe a cute, but I'm not interested, sorry. Try to make a run from door to gate after the second boss in Ala Mhigo, with first timers, in a 310 IL, without stopping, collecting all the AOEs and mobs.

item level 310 is already being overgeared for that place, so it should not be that hard.

[RajNish]

item level 310 is already being overgeared for that place, so it should not be that hard.

For the group it became hell. The tank grabbed one group of mobs with magitek mechs, which makes a massive AOEs, as you remember, then another the same, and dragged it to the dogs, under constant shelling of guns, grabbing the last group of mobs without clearing all of it and, finally (because of gates), stopped with this all in a narrow place in front of the gate. Beginners were confused by so many mobs and AOEs, one DPS started to run away in panic, instead of hitting, the second just died quickly.

[Neoom]

Mobile refuses to work but at @RajNish.
Dont worry I have no interest in you, nor do I do it to be cute. If you find it so, good for you? Wasnt my intention in the first place.
Also yes I have done that place on 310 IL or even lower (mix of story and dungeom gear from SB). It's doable, well unless your tank misses cooldowns, but then it still might not end with a wipe just low MP and no recourses left. Not defending the act of the tank, but answering your question. But also fact might be I'm a veteran healer, might be struggle to a newer one who isnt so confident im their skills.