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  1. #301
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    By the way, do mentors who have a "bad day" think that there may be a person with disabilities on the other side of the screen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RajNish View Post
    By the way, do mentors who have a "bad day" think that there may be a person with disabilities on the other side of the screen?
    By the way, do sprouts who have a "bad day" think that there may be a mentor with disabilities on the other side of the screen? Strange how some people so far have used this as a reason to attack mentors and their actions, but the opposite hasn't been rarely mentioned. ._. There are two sides to every coin, making assumptions on either side is not the way to solve that. Every situation has its own circumstances, the large amount of generalizations going on in this thread has been...disheartening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxa View Post
    By the way, do sprouts who have a "bad day" think that there may be a mentor with disabilities on the other side of the screen? Strange how some people so far have used this as a reason to attack mentors and their actions, but the opposite hasn't been rarely mentioned. ._. There are two sides to every coin, making assumptions on either side is not the way to solve that. Every situation has its own circumstances, the large amount of generalizations going on in this thread has been...disheartening.
    I can’t speak for all the sprouts, but as a person who has friends with disabilities and had co-players with disabilities in the raid team (in the previous game), I can say about myself, yes, I think about such players. And I know that every "idiot" can hurt such a person.
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  4. #304
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoranRigel View Post
    We don’t know anything at all. The reports go into the void, we get automatic "add his to blacklist" tips.
    These tips would be helpful if a blacklist could really eliminate the chance of meeting this player. However, it does not work like in other games. You may not see chat messages, but you will see trolling through game actions, for example. Most likely, the changes to the blacklist function could solve most of these problems and the number of reports would be significantly reduced, except in special cases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RajNish View Post
    And I know that every "idiot" can hurt such a person.
    An every "idiot" can hurt any person, regardless of their nationality and language, as well as physical capabilities.

    That's why it's so strange for me to see suggestions here that in a situation where player X (mentor or not) insults player Y, it's player Y's fault, and player X just had a "bad day".
    An insult is an insult, by words or actions, but unfortunately, not all of them can be a reason for a report.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoranRigel View Post
    player X (mentor or not) insults player Y, it's player Y's fault, and player X just had a "bad day".
    An insult should be reported and handled by the gamemasters accordingly, I think it's safe to say noone would argue that.
    But as it was stated: plain leaving content as a mentor (without saying a word) is not an insult in any kind of way and should not be reportable. The person is taking the 30min penalty for leaving which is how it is intended by the devs. Everyone should just leave it at that and move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmeliaVerves View Post
    The person is taking the 30min penalty for leaving which is how it is intended by the devs. Everyone should just leave it at that and move on.
    First of all, I don 't understand what 's going on here a "leaving content". I have never said that "leaving" is a problem that requires an immediate solution.
    I spoke of insults with words and actions (such as refusing to roll so that other people would abandon it; Or pull large groups of mobs without considering the capabilities of the healer and dd; Or failure to perform mechanics by (de)mentors and attempts to sabotage, etc., there are many examples of such actions).

    Second, I think a fine of 30 minutes is even an excessive measure. For example, in SWTOR, the fine was 15 minutes. Given that groups are dialled automatically, this should not be a big problem.

    By the way, it also seems strange to me that many players (and even more so mentors) don't know how to express their thoughts without the use of casing vocabulary, accusations and value judgements. No matter how wrong an opponent is, there are many ways to explain with him in a human way.
    Of course, if there is enough a vocabulary.
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    Last edited by SoranRigel; 02-04-2020 at 08:45 PM.
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    Still going ?
    In my opinion the majority of sprouts and returner are toxic. And Mentors are suffering from this.
    Funny or not ? You cant prove me wrong because i made a statement wich cant be checked. Furthermore my statement leaves yOu only the option of supporting me or supporting toxic behavior. That is very manipulative . Next is what makes your opinion true or even more important then mine or anyone elses?
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    If i may put my two cents into this, i Honestly just don't understand how someone has the time to become a Mentor, i would love to be a mentor but coms are not as easy to come by as one might think, im a scholar healer, and a damn good one too if you talk to anyone i've ever healed for but coms can only be gotten at random and not by anyone you really know because basically only strangers give you them and most people don't bother with it anymore, so if someone has that many coms then they have earned the right to be called a mentor. though some might not deserve it, it sucks that you have gotten crappy mentors though, i would encourage you to look around for a progression FC that caters to People who want to learn mechs for every dungeon, raid, trial, etc. there is at least a few on just about every server im sure, so maybe try that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banriikku View Post
    Still going ?
    In my opinion the majority of sprouts and returner are toxic. And Mentors are suffering from this.
    Funny or not ? You cant prove me wrong because i made a statement wich cant be checked. Furthermore my statement leaves yOu only the option of supporting me or supporting toxic behavior. That is very manipulative . Next is what makes your opinion true or even more important then mine or anyone elses?
    When the community as a whole is toxic, everyone suffers. All this is very symptomatic in fact. There is no healthy equality, a lot of elitism, passive and active aggression, greed and selfishness.
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