Mentors...please!

[Neoom]

Maybe it is harrassment or should I click the report cheating? A bug maybe? Right click on player and report for RMT? Leaving a suggestion?

If a mentor (or any other player) has been a dick to you or been toxic to you, that's harrassment. No need to pretend like the options don't cover the reasoning for report.

[SoranRigel]

The only thing I've gotten out of this thread is that OP and their friend need to spend less time spamming with pseudo-intellectual fallacies and significantly more on self-critiquing how they approach/converse with others. When your confirmation bias reaches this level of extreme, the problem isn't with others; it's with you.

I would be very grateful if you would not resort to the victim blaming.
Because of this vicious practice, I have repeatedly found myself in a situation where my groupmates refused to kick a mentor who was rude to them. Perhaps they also thought "it's our fault".

[RajNish]

The only thing I've gotten out of this thread is that OP and their friend need to spend less time spamming with pseudo-intellectual fallacies and significantly more on self-critiquing how they approach/converse with others. When your confirmation bias reaches this level of extreme, the problem isn't with others; it's with you.

Regardless, playing a perpetual blame game doesn't accomplish anything. If you feel a mentor—or anyone for that matter—has crossed a line, then report them. All of the tools you need to solve the problem are there, and easily accessible to everyone.

All this, of course, sounds good, but no. When a mentor says that mechanics was failed because half of the raid alliance are French, is it my fault? Not. When a mentor, insults novices calling them idiots. Is it my fault? Not. And finally, when do the GMs themselves propose me to discuss the problem on the forum after one of my reports, it’s convenient for you to turn a blind eye to this and repeat the same thing about reporting. Reports will not change the system. Therefore, I will discuss it on the forum.

[hasana]

If a mentor (or any other player) has been a dick to you or been toxic to you, that's harrassment. No need to pretend like the options don't cover the reasoning for report.

But it only works when the player is badmouthing there is no option to report a mentor like described in OP post where he queues for mentor roulette and leaves because he doesn't get what he wants.

[Neoom]

But it only works when the player is badmouthing there is no option to report a mentor like described in OP post where he queues for mentor roulette and leaves because he doesn't get what he wants.

The mentor already gets a penalty for leaving, the 30 min timeout, and if I'm not wrong it will grow longer if you keep leaving. Would you report everyone who leaves? Say a player that isnt a sprout or returner leaves Aurum Vale, you report them right?

[RajNish]

But it only works when the player is badmouthing there is no option to report a mentor like described in OP post where he queues for mentor roulette and leaves because he doesn't get what he wants.

By the way, this is a good idea. If we had a separate reputation system for mentors and a separate reporting system, everything would be easier. Because when these people break the rules, they suddenly become "players like the others", and when they get their privileges, they are rise above the rest.

[SoranRigel]

It is highly unlikely that players will support the idea of sorting likes.
People are lazy, and to complicate the system means increasing the number of clicks for lazy people. This can lead to the fact that players generally cease to give recommendations - this is already happening at expert roulettes.

A working blacklist, in which you can put a toxic player in and never get into roulette with him again, is a fairly simple solution.

[Reinha]

But it only works when the player is badmouthing there is no option to report a mentor like described in OP post where he queues for mentor roulette and leaves because he doesn't get what he wants.

That's because leaving instances and taking the appropriate penalty is not against the rules and it's not even breaking normal player etiquette. You also can't know their intent or whether they are using mentor roulette.

[Thamorian]

I would be very grateful if you would not resort to the victim blaming.
Because of this vicious practice, I have repeatedly found myself in a situation where my groupmates refused to kick a mentor who was rude to them. Perhaps they also thought "it's our fault".

So you found yourself in a situation where other people in the party did not find the mentor to be a problem, only you found the mentor to be a problem? Maybe the mentor wasn't the problem then? Takes 50% to kick someone out of a party. Only 2 people needed in a party of 4, the 1 who initiated the kick and 1 other. 4 needed in a party of 8, the 1 who initiated the kick and 3 others. It's a good thing it takes more than 1 person one to kick someone.

This thread has turned into a complete joke.

[SoranRigel]

So you found yourself in a situation where other people in the party did not find the mentor to be a problem, only you found the mentor to be a problem? Maybe the mentor wasn't the problem then?

If this gaming community is so tolerant of toxic behavior, this is also a problem.