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    Banriikku's Avatar
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    Kasumi Bunja
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    Shiva
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    A mentor chose to help.
    I do not excuse any kind of insulting or any other way of rulebreaking or bad behavior. Such players need to be reported.
    The claim many mentor player are toxic has still no prove and no explanation.
    I am for a change but my concern is the commendation system and that stupid crown symbol (should be a watering can instead) and not the demand for punishment.
    Policing the mentor system more in a way that seems like punishment for no reason is unhelpfull and destructive.
    We need more enforcement of the rules but this is not mentor specific.
    A toxic player is toxic because of his behavior not the mentor crown.

    The claim the mentor specific rewards are the reason for MANY player to participate in the mentor system is not understandable.

    Mentor Rewards:
    The Title Mentor 50 Duyts (Mentor Roulette)
    The Title : Mentor of Mentors 500 Dutys (Mentor Roulette)
    Item Hat 200 Dutys
    Item Monocle 1000 Dutys (Mentor Roulette)
    The Mount Astrope 2000 Dutys (Mentor Roulette)

    The mount is well earned with 2000 dutys. I fail to see what rewards are handed out that justify that statement.


    I cant see what part of the mentor system encourages poor behavior.
    The demand a mentor has to help if not he/she/it should be punished is unfounded.
    Putting up some extrem requirements for mentors is absolut nonsense. But i agree the requirement shouldn't be just recommendations rather "kill every Extrem encounter 10 times".


    My wishes are:
    Change the crown to a watering can
    Change the recommendation system or take it off from the mentor system and find a new way to evaluate the qualification for the mentorstatus.
    NO Mounts/Minions or other fancy stuff as rewards.

    My last wish is more off topic but we need somekind of general chat so that the socialization and the not game related talk goes there and the NN is just a help chat for sprouts, returning players and such.

    But i am absolutely against these "you have to" demands. A mentor helps voluntary.
    The argument "there are rulebreaking mentors" - do you have reported them ? If so then what is your problem ? They are still playing ? Then Se has decided that it was not enough to bann them. You are still unhappy but cant do anything ? Welcome my Friend you took the red pill.
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    SoranRigel's Avatar
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    Soran Rigel
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    Spriggan
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Banriikku View Post
    A toxic player is toxic because of his behavior not the mentor crown.
    Let me supplement you substantially.
    I 've already talked here about the impact of symbols of authority - such as awards, crown, riding animals, title - on the behavior of players with unstable behavior. Awards provoke them not to help, but to reach, and in these conditions assistance to beginners is perceived as an unfortunate obstacle. Authority is quite capable of changing behavior, and the most striking proof of this is the Stanford prison experiment.

    At the same time, I have repeatedly faced a situation where the group refused to kick a toxic mentor without supporting the request. And that 's the other side of the problem: the gaming community is so tolerant of toxicity that it stopped noticing it.
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