Mentors...please!

[Neoom]

We can also start working from the point were good mentors are not punished in the progress. But to make mentor system work, the whole thing would need a massive rework and different requirements to work, since hitting 1500comms is easy and fast. So unless your only idea is to banish the whole system your idea isn't rational either. Obviously we need a way to get the bad mentors out, without punishing the good ones in the progress, since they are doing their job so it would be unfair.
And to be real best option is to remove the commendation requirement first, replace it with something that sees what knowledge you have of the fights/dungeons. Since helping is more important than the numbers of comms you have that can only be from the fact you healed decently, but didn't help talk or do anything beside that = doesn't prove anything on your mentor ability.
Hell even a quiz of some kind could work, maybe with right questions.

[Zazay]

So far, of the constructive proposals that have been made here, the most constructive (and easily realized) is to deprive mentors of all privileges and awards and to make help to newbies truly selfless.

Yeah, at this point I am convinced that this entire thread was created just for trolling purposes. Constructive comments have been made, yet the few here still believe that mentors are only out for achievements/mount --> my post about the low Astrope ownership was more or less ignored / not attempted to be debated. The few here still seem to believe that all mentors are bad, yet there are so many mentors out there (albeit with their crowns hidden) that are in fact helping newcomers and returners a LOT. There is no merit to become a mentor just for the sake of being an a*hat to others. And if there are mentors that DO, then that's an individual - the player's - problem. A system change won't change the behavior of players. People will be people. Good or bad. Helpful or spiteful. Either deal with it or become a mentor yourself and be the "exemplar for player etiquette". You'll notice soon enough that it isn't as easy like all those "mentor-bashers" seem to claim, especially on Chaos DC where many languages and cultures are clashing together which, by the way, many people have already pointed out here.

[Neoom]

We aren't talking about the good mentors, proudly wearing their crown to notify anyone they are here to help but the bad ones.

But as I said before even when talking about the bad ones, we cant make a decision that could possibly punish the good ones, so yes we do have to talk about good ones in the mind of what to change in the system.

[Ovenmitts]

Nobody here believes mentors suddenly become monster the moment they put their crown on and should be hunted and burned.

We aren't talking about the good mentors, proudly wearing their crown to notify anyone they are here to help but the bad ones.

I mean it's not hard to see that...

So basically what you're saying here is that you acknowledge that not all mentors are bad, yet despite there only being some bad apples, you want to deprive all mentors not only of their icon but also of any reward they may or may not achieve simply to teach the few a lesson in morality?

Honestly, this topic is full of a bunch of semi-intellectuals using big words in an attempt to make their vain arguments sound better than the numerous counterarguments. Why would you punish everyone over a few? Or do you just say that because whenever you see a mentor you assume the worst? Mentors at this point are like the boogeyman. They not only ate your homework but also kicked your dog and insulted your maternal parental figure just because they wear a crown and because they can.

The combat mentor roulette is made so that it can fill queues for unpopular content. Yes, SE prompts you with a warning that you need to adhere to some common sense rules like treat others as you would be treated, but mentors are still people. You can't insult a customer service representative just because they can't fight back. Are they held to a higher standard? I would think so since they agreed to the rules, but everyone has their bad days both mentors and sprouts alike. If anyone hurls abusive language, then by all means report them. It's very simple. Report those that are giving mentors a bad name and they will be punished. If they're not punished? Maybe you got triggered over a situation that wasn't as bad as you thought it was and should get over it.

[SoranRigel]

@Sesera, you have now moved to the category of "bad" in this thread, too. Welcome to the team.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

You don't need everyone, just a decent amount to make it harder to get matched. Only one person in a 24man for instance.


No I don't think it would ever be everyone on a datacenter. I don't even think it would happen to a degree. But I am pointing out the flaws in your ideas. Someone has to.

[SoranRigel]

But I am pointing out the flaws in your ideas. Someone has to.

This system, which has been working successfully since 2011, may have some shortcomings, but personally it was very easy and convenient for me not to face those I do not want to see.
Would you really give up that opportunity? Honest answer, please.

And... Indeed, the situation with the hypothetical mass addition to the blacklist you are trying to describe is slightly unlike the "friendly gaming community."
It 's more like a mass... bullying?
Or it 's the language barrier that 's to blame. Perhaps.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

This system, which has been working successfully since 2011, may have some shortcomings, but personally it was very easy and convenient for me not to face those I do not want to see.
Would you really give up that opportunity? Honest answer, please.

And... Indeed, the situation with the hypothetical mass addition to the blacklist you are trying to describe is slightly unlike the "friendly gaming community."
Or it 's the language barrier that 's to blame. Perhaps.

I don't currently have anyone on my blacklist other than content sellers, and they don't run content anyway.

Even if I did blacklist someone for a reason, seeing them doesn't bother me, and honestly, I'd likely forget why I added them to the list a few weeks later anyway.

[SoranRigel]

I don't currently have anyone on my blacklist other than content sellers, and they don't run content anyway.

Even if I did blacklist someone for a reason, seeing them doesn't bother me, and honestly, I'd likely forget why I added them to the list a few weeks later anyway.

Thanks for the answer.
One of the advantages of this system is that you may add (or may not add) others to the blacklist.
According to your desire.
However, the blacklist system in FFXIV is not functional now, so I can understand you.

I know a lot of people who actively used the black list in SWTOR. Why not present this opportunity in FFXIV?

Nevertheless, I asked a little bit about the other. Not about how you feel about the blacklist at the moment, but about whether you would have given up the feature if you had been granted it.