Mentors...please!

[Zazay]

It is also quite contradictory to say that mentors are only out for the mount. If it really would be like that, then why do only around 1.3% active public characters have Astrope? (source: ffxivcollect) Given the many complaints about bad mentors and that they only do the roulette for the achievements, that percentage must be higher. There are tons of mentors out there, the majority even with deactivated crown, yet seeing Astrope is incredibly rare. I won't deny that people might rush for mentor status because of the NN, as it is considered as a general chat by many. I also won't debate that many probably like the name decoration. But saying mentors are only out for the achievements & loot must be not correct, otherwise I would see all the mentors out there riding that mount. Heck, I've seen even more TEA weapons around, and the savage community is considered 'small'.

[MPK]

So can someone remind the SPROUTS to not respond with 'you don't pay my sub' to NOT IGNORE MENTORS WHEN TELLING THEM MECHANICS?

You all like to dunk on Mentors, bad mouth them, and whine... but do you think that mentors might be a tad fed up with the lazy and snide attitudes that have been running rampant from the other side of the fence as well? That a LOT of mentors have just stopped caring as a result of the rash of Sprouts that use jump potions and don't even ATTEMPT to learn their classes or expect the carry or want a 'how to' in the middle of a dungeon/mid-ex fight?

Please. This goes both ways and I'm tired of the constant 'Mentors are bad, WAAAAAAAH!' Saddle up and do your own homework before you just throw everything at the mentor system whole-sale.

But mentors most of the time are bad and sprouts that level skip are alts that actually raid.

[SoranRigel]

3. LOL! The top two comments of that thread you reference "Why does no one police mentors?", with over 150 upvotes each, basically tell the OP that "this is the way it is" and report those players at the Support Desk. You actually have to scroll for a long time to find any post actually agreeing that SE needs to do something extra to police Mentors. It's mostly just people anecdotally complaining. So...bad example doesn't help your argument much.

That's it. End of story. There isn't any need to do more than that.

This example is just as good as this discussion. Here was rudeness, depreciation, ridicule, transitions to the individual.
I suspect that the authors of these wonderful comments are just fans of pixel crowns, who are well aware of how you can insult people so as not to get banned.

[Neoom]

This example is just as good as this discussion. Here was rudeness, depreciation, ridicule, transitions to the individual.
I suspect that the authors of these wonderful comments are just fans of pixel crowns, who are well aware of how you can insult people so as not to get banned.

A language barrier as an excuse for toxic behavior and rule-breaking? Hmm... I 'm afraid that 's a weak argument.

And thats on taking things out of context

[SoranRigel]

And thats on taking things out of context

A new attempt to justify rudeness? I 'm sorry, but no. Bad attempt.

[Neoom]

You did the same to me, you took my answer out of context so I did the same to you

[SoranRigel]

You did the same to me, you took my answer out of context so I did the same to you

Transition to personalities, abeuses.
Thank you, your comments add to the clarity of the problem for which we are gathered here.

[Neoom]

Transition to personalities, abeuses.
Thank you, your comments add to the clarity of the problem for which we are gathered here.

The thing is with you and your friend, you dont actually listen to what any of us have to say unless its "OMG mentors are so bad and evil!!!!!", each one of us trying to make points on how its not a one wya road gets absolutely dismissed by you and your "evidence". So how I could talk to you in the kindest way possible, but if I dont agree with you or your point of view youre not gonna like me either way no matter how I present my point.

[SoranRigel]

The thing is with you and your friend, you dont actually listen to what any of us have to say unless its "OMG mentors are so bad and evil!!!!!", each one of us trying to make points on how its not a one wya road gets absolutely dismissed by you and your "evidence". So how I could talk to you in the kindest way possible, but if I dont agree with you or your point of view youre not gonna like me either way no matter how I present my point.

I 've read your point.
I understood her as an excuse for an abuse from mentors and an attempt to shift attention from this problem.
I disagree with that approach. Please do not change or distort my words, it is a bad tactic to conduct discussion.

[Neoom]

The thing is with you and your friend, you dont actually listen to what any of us have to say unless its "OMG mentors are so bad and evil!!!!!", each one of us trying to make points on how its not a one wya road gets absolutely dismissed by you and your "evidence". So how I could talk to you in the kindest way possible, but if I dont agree with you or your point of view youre not gonna like me either way no matter how I present my point.

Made a typo and Im on mobile but should say "I could talk to you" without the how. Not that you care