Mentors...please!

[SoranRigel]

I don't currently have anyone on my blacklist other than content sellers, and they don't run content anyway.

Even if I did blacklist someone for a reason, seeing them doesn't bother me, and honestly, I'd likely forget why I added them to the list a few weeks later anyway.

Thanks for the answer.
One of the advantages of this system is that you may add (or may not add) others to the blacklist.
According to your desire.
However, the blacklist system in FFXIV is not functional now, so I can understand you.

I know a lot of people who actively used the black list in SWTOR. Why not present this opportunity in FFXIV?

Nevertheless, I asked a little bit about the other. Not about how you feel about the blacklist at the moment, but about whether you would have given up the feature if you had been granted it.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Thanks for the answer.
One of the advantages of this system is that you may add (or may not add) others to the blacklist.
According to your desire.
However, the blacklist system in FFXIV is not functional now, so I can understand you.

I know a lot of people who actively used the black list in SWTOR. Why not present this opportunity in FFXIV?

Nevertheless, I asked a little bit about the other. Not about how you feel about the blacklist at the moment, but about whether you would have given up the feature if you had been granted it.

Sure, its not a feature I would really need. I can't think of more than 1 instance where I'd never want to encounter a player again, and that was literal years ago. In fact, I haven't seen said player in years either so its not an issue. I can't say I've ever even run into a player I had blacklisted back when I did use the function. So it wouldn't effect me at all.

[SoranRigel]

So sorry for off topic I know you guys hate it, but there are no deleted messages in this treat

I 'm afraid they are, and you 're wrong.
You probably need screenshots of deleted messages as evidence, hmm?

Sure, its not a feature I would really need. I can't think of more than 1 instance where I'd never want to encounter a player again, and that was literal years ago. In fact, I haven't seen said player in years either so its not an issue. I can't say I've ever even run into a player I had blacklisted back when I did use the function. So it wouldn't effect me at all.

I understood you.
You seem to be a very lucky and optimistic person.
Much are lucky less.

[Neoom]

I 'm afraid they are, and you 're wrong.
You probably need screenshots of deleted messages as evidence, hmm?

Every deleted message shows as deleted message with no text inside. Unless you know more of deleted messages than me and can prove me wrong.(Saying that all I know usually deleted messages leave a ''mark'' in the log) I just checked the whole log, but saw nothing deleted (did find one message deleted by op, reason not defined)

[SoranRigel]

Every deleted message shows as deleted message with no text inside. Unless you know more of deleted messages than me and can prove me wrong.(Saying that all I know usually deleted messages leave a ''mark'' in the log) I just checked the whole log, but saw nothing deleted (did find one message deleted by op, reason not defined)

Ah, I understood. Did you think the deleted message was yours? Nope.

[Packetdancer]

So, as background: I left in post-ARR content around the launch of Heavensward, then came back this past August and have played all the way through to endgame. (And have begun raiding with a static!) As you might guess, I had to pretty much re-learn the game upon my return, because there were just a few changes during the time I was gone. ("Where'd Protect go? Where's Stoneskin? What happened to Cleric Stance? ...also, why am I growing flowers??")

Needless to say, I asked folks for advice along the way! And while I haven't personally had any really terrible experiences with mentors in that time, I've recruited a lot of sprouts to the game in the past two months or so, and I've heard some horror stories from a few of them about mentors in randomly matched parties. Not many, but even two or three tales isn't great. (In my opinion, a mentor should never tell a brand new sprout who's in Sastasha or Tam-Tara for the first time "You suck at playing your class.", much less have that be the entirety of their advice before they leave.)

So, yeah, the whole mentor system probably could be better put together.

Meanwhile, I enjoy discussing system design, so instead of diving into an argument, I'll provide a new facet of this topic to argue about! In that spirit, here's my personal take on how the Mentor system could be fixed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

(Apologies for the external link. Unfortunately, the forums have a very harsh post-size-limit, and fitting this into 3000 characters or less would mean breaking it into quite a few sub-posts. Thus, a Google Docs link instead of 6 consecutive posts in the thread or whatever.)

[Lastelli]

Meanwhile, I enjoy discussing system design, so instead of diving into an argument, I'll provide a new facet of this topic to argue about! In that spirit, here's my personal take on how the Mentor system could be fixed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

There are two main problems with this:

1) Players often don't give commendations at the end of an instance because they can't be bothered. Giving more options would probably result in even more people not bothering with the system;
2) The average ffxiv player is, quite frankly, terrible and clueless. Making the mentor's requirements almost entirely reliant on the feedback of a clueless community without some form of objective requirement about mentors' proficiency and knowledge is not a good idea. The problem is finding the appropriate requirements...right now, you can be the best, kindest and more knowledgable player in the game, with all jobs at 80 and savage/ultimate clear and not meet the requirements to be a mentor because you mostly play with your friends.

Anyway, we all know they're not going to change the commendation system, just like they're not going to change how the blacklist works. Also, they won't remove the current rewards based on the number of mentor roulettes completed, as that would be a major slap in the face to those that have been working on it for the last 2 years. So might as well stop thinking of those as viable solutions.

[Neoom]

Ah, I understood. Did you think the deleted message was yours? Nope.

No? I never was in the impression it was me. Was just stating that there are no deleted one, well aside from two I saw. Still you didn't ''prove'' or more so tell me, am I wrong on saying it should show up in the log or not. Since as I said, I dont know better than that, with my short time being in this forum.