Mentors...please!

[RajNish]

@ Soran Riegel Hmm so what i see is : my opinion is right and yours wrong and if you disagree with me you are bad person etc. Thats not really a discussion.
You just ignor every argument that dont fit your theory. Also you dont explain your viewpoint at all. You just attack all mentors at once and try to etablish the term mentor=toxic. And try every person that disagree with you to make a defender of bad behavior. Thats rude polemical. You try to establish victims and offender with nothing in between.
On the topic itself toxic behavior and mentor status is just a corelation not a causality.

I beg you, look at the beginning of this discussion. It’s very strange to see how people joining it do not bother reading the thread. If you want to have all the information, please read. No one here says that mentors are bad just because they are mentors. We are talking about people who break the rules, insult other players, do not help, but continue to be mentors somehow.

What is a Mentor
Mentors are veteran players who chose to offer their time and experience to help guide new adventurers. To facilitate their assistance, mentors will gain access to a special chat channel as well as a means to easily register for duties and trials with new players.
As a mentor you are expected to actively perform the following:
1. Provide gameplay advice for new adventurers and other players.
2. Be an exemplar for player etiquette.
3. Invite new adventurers to the Novice Network and answer their queries in the chat channel.

Also we are talking here about a possible changes of the mentor's system. I do not know why most of people began to get so nervous and replace the original thread meaning.

[SoranRigel]

I do not know why most of people began to get so nervous and replace the original thread meaning.

I have no other assumptions than this: the topic of "toxic mentors" for some strange reason is very relevant and painful for them.
Therefore, they make a great effort to neutralize this fact, question it, and shift the focus to the speaker's personality.

[Thamorian]

I have no other assumptions than this: the topic of "toxic mentors" for some strange reason is very relevant and painful for them.
Therefore, they make a great effort to neutralize this fact, question it, and shift the focus to the speaker's personality.

You've not proven anything as fact nor provided any evidence as such. Just because you say it is a fact does not make it so. All that's been referenced as evidence is a few threads by a few people that claim there is a toxic mentor problem, yet in these same threads when you look through the pages of posts, there are more individuals responding that no there isn't a bigger problem and if someone is being toxic, report them. It gets annoying seeing these "I ran into a mean mentor. We need to abolish the whole mentor system!" threads popping up from time to time.

[SoranRigel]

You've not proven anything as fact nor provided any evidence as such.

If you are not GM then I am not required to provide any "special evidence" for you. They are provided for GM regularly in my reports (and my Free Company mates).

The fact that, unfortunately, often these reports do not lead to a ban of toxic mentors has already been discussed here.
It was also said here that many toxic mentors, well aware that police measures can be applied to them, are able to avoid direct violations and to veiled an abuze.
It was also said here that, unfortunately, the "add to the blacklist" system does not guarantee that you will not get into the party with these toxic mentors.
Also here and in a similar discussion on Reddit there are many people who confirm the negative experience of communicating with "mentors."

However, if everything has already been said, why do you continue to devalue the problem and experience of all these people and insist on methods that do not work?

If they were working, it is logical to assume that it would not be necessary to question the entire "mentoring system" as a whole.