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  1. #51
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    Pepsi Plunge
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeedSix View Post
    For example, seeing a Warrior or Paladin tank in a bikini or with no shirt on is not what I\\'ve come to love and enjoy about Final Fantasy games. In my opinion this type of behavior can diminish the enjoyment and overall experience for some gamers.
    Another thing, about what you love and enjoy about final fantasy games: GodKefka for example is one of those shirtless guys too. XIIs Vaans upper body is practically naked. Snow and Fang were the best 'Defenders' in FF XIII and just google how they dress. Noctis is adventuring in street clothes most of his time. THIS GUY is the original Gunbreaker wearing his... uh, leather jacket 'armour'. And most of tanking/dmg-reduction comes from magical shields and barriers anyway, not from steel plates.
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    Pepsis Eorzea-Tagebuch:
    https://de.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/22850747/blog/


  2. #52
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    Also another thing: While I don't wear the bikini, I do usually sport the tank top or fireglass vest and sturdy cloth leggings when tanking. I like my character to feel light and nimble when I tank, hence why my paladin set sports the small shield and longsword combo, and my GNB set uses the slim High Steel Bayonet. The idea that tanks must be BIG CHONK is absolutely absurd to me, especially gunbreaker.
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    1. You need to use the "reply with quote" option or nobody will know which post you are replying to.

    2. If this is aimed at me, I already said it's not about whether it's only happening on your screen. I don't want it happening to my character, whichever screen they appear on.

    And no, I am not arguing this because I want to dress as a bikini tank. Quite the opposite.
    If I want to turn battle effects on/off for my character, party members and others I have the options to do so and it does not affect your character or gaming experience. Also you would not know if I'm using the feature. So, if there is a feature that allows me to disable the visual effects of glamoured gear on my screen and it does affect what you see on your screen, what's the problem?
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    As ridiculous, absurd, or dumb as you may think some people's glamours are, they have chosen their glamours to represent their characters the way they want. If you have a problem with this, you can make friends with a group of people who never glamour anything outside of your tastes, and play exclusively with them.
    You totally missed the point.
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    While a tank in bikini may look silly to you, deactivation glamour would also mean that as good as noone would be walking around with an matching outfit or colors. Just looking at my unglamoured BiS-mix of stone- and edengear for my tank would make my eyes bleed. So no.
    Also everyone can wear what they want, don't you dare glamourshaming them. If they want to run around in a bikini, let them - it's their decision. not yours.
    You missed my point as well.
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurida View Post
    Oh I\\'ve got an idea to make this good! You get two settings for it, right? One that\\'s as current, and then another that automatically puts every player character into their class\\'s artifact gear depending on level bracket.

    So looking at a Paladin they\\'d be in the AF1 from levels 50 to 59, the AF2 from 60 to 69, the AF3 from 70 to 79, and then the AF4 at 80. The only thing of the character in question it takes into account is whether headgear is set visible or weapons display while not drawn.

    As for before level 50, or for classes without all the sets of artifact armor, I dunno. Could just give them the hall of the novice sets from 1-29 and the Brayflox set from 30-49?

    But setting on this \\'immersion mode\\' would be a valid option for people who care about job identity, letting them undo all the glamour restrictions in the game right now for the rest of us who actually engage with the system.
    No, that is not what I had in mind lol
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeedSix View Post
    If I want to turn battle effects on/off for my character, party members and others I have the options to do so and it does not affect your character or gaming experience. Also you would not know if I'm using the feature. So, if there is a feature that allows me to disable the visual effects of glamoured gear on my screen and it does affect what you see on your screen, what's the problem?
    False equivalence.

    Battle effects can and do obscure AoE effects and boss mechanics; they can even slow the game for lower-end PCs. Glamours don't. They simply don't. They're an entirely minuscule thing that you won't even notice during a boss battle. So why are you so adamant that this needs to be in the game, that the devs take the time out of their schedule to cater to you, to disable, even optionally, the assets their design team spent time, money, and effort to make?
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonGunner View Post
    no need to become so hostile and even that defensive about glamour, the op has a solid point.
    if he doesn't want to see those kind of things ,he should have the option in game to turn it off.
    as much as u try to defend a person choice of fashion ,u sound more prejudice then you try to make the op sound.
    people are allowed to glamour what they want but people should also be able to not look at it if it bothers them as ridiculous, absurd, or dumb as you may think this is.
    people have different taste ,they like certain thing,they hate certain things and they also bothered by them and the OP idea caters to those who are bothered by such glamours while still respecting them.
    Thanks for being one of the few people who actually understood the original post. Turning on/off battle effects doesn't affect other players nor do they know if I'm using the feature. The same would be true for a glamoured effects setting.
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  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by KalinOrthos View Post
    False equivalence.

    Battle effects can and do obscure AoE effects and boss mechanics; they can even slow the game for lower-end PCs. Glamours don\\\\'t. They simply don\\\\'t. They\\\\'re an entirely minuscule thing that you won\\\\'t even notice during a boss battle. So why are you so adamant that this needs to be in the game, that the devs take the time out of their schedule to cater to you, to disable, even optionally, the assets their design team spent time, money, and effort to make?
    This has got to be a joke lol. Are you playing a prank on me?
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  10. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeedSix View Post
    This has got to be a joke lol. Are you playing a prank on me?
    No but it's becoming increasingly clear that you are on us.
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