FFXI and FFXIV vet needs newb style advice for crafting rotations...

[Cultofpersonality]

So I just got back.. but besides the long story, I need some help. What are some early on rotations for the level 20/40 turn in quests for crafting EXP in the new Ishgard reconstruction area? I can make some 50/50 after buying a stack of all the required ingredients, but my rotation seems off. I feel like I should at least be able to hit the low tier without as many issues as I run into.

I basically need some early HQ rotations for crafting collectibles to boost my crafting classes up that are pretty low.

[Gurney]

Face the SW on Darksday, using a light crystal.

[Gokuhan]

Face the SW on Darksday, using a light crystal.

GAH beat me too it.

My suggestion would be google or youtube. I have seen a YT vid series where someone was covering HQ rotations for all the leveling synths added with the Ishgard restoration. Those would probably be good resource.

[Cultofpersonality]

GAH beat me too it.

My suggestion would be google or youtube. I have seen a YT vid series where someone was covering HQ rotations for all the leveling synths added with the Ishgard restoration. Those would probably be good resource.

Any idea where the video is? Everything I find is ole or about collectibles before that area. I’m probably searching the wrong thing tbh

[Reap00]

Read the tool tips. Figure it out yourself. You don't need to rely on other people.

[Gurney]

Read the tool tips. Figure it out yourself. You don't need to rely on other people.

someone is leveling cooking, can see the salt flying around.

[NanaWiloh]

Read the tool tips. Figure it out yourself. You don't need to rely on other people.

You know what tool tips dont tell you?? Why a good rotation keeps failing over and over again. I still see low level crafters trying to craft HQ items when they dont have the cp and control needed to push it to HQ. Your advice is like handing a person 250 pieces of 500 piece puzzle then telling them to solve the entire thing. Kinda of hard to solve it if you intentionally give them only half the puzzle!!!

[Jojoya]

You know what tool tips dont tell you?? Why a good rotation keeps failing over and over again. I still see low level crafters trying to craft HQ items when they dont have the cp and control needed to push it to HQ. Your advice is like handing a person 250 pieces of 500 piece puzzle then telling them to solve the entire thing. Kinda of hard to solve it if you intentionally give them only half the puzzle!!!

If it's constantly failing, it's not a good rotation for what you're trying to make. That should be obvious.

You don't need a tooltip to know why you're failing. You're failing because you didn't use enough synthesis actions to complete the item before all Durability was consumed.

How many more did you need? That depends on what you were trying to make and your gear. Look at the crafting interface. It tells you what progress you'll make at 100% efficiency. Look at your tooltips. They tell you what the efficiency of the action will be. Do the math.

What should your rotation be not only to complete synthesis but to increase the chances of getting a HQ item? Right back to it depends on your level, your gear and what you're trying to make. You might not be able to guarantee HQ on an item even using HQ mats. That's okay. Unless you're trying to complete a class quest that requires it, items don't have to be HQ when you're leveling. Your XP bonus is based on the increase to quality made through actions, not whether or not the item ends up HQ.

There's a reason why macros shared online list the difficulty plus minimum CP/control/craftsmanship requirements. There is no one size fits all crafting rotation in this game. This is not WoW with its one button, zero difficulty, gearless crafting system. I have 3 level 80 omni-crafters but I can't use the same rotation on all 3 because their gear sets are different. I can't use the same rotation to make both Pliable Glass Fiber and Facet Coat of Gathering because the difficulties are different even though both are level 80** recipes.

But I was perfectly capable of figuring out rotations and understanding why initial attempts might have failed because the information I needed was right there in the tooltips and crafting interface. I did the math and figured out what went wrong.

If you're bad at math, you're going to struggle figuring out crafting on your own. I definitely recommend using Teamcraft in that case. It's a good tool even if you're good at math but want to figure things out quicker.

[NanaWiloh]

If it's constantly failing, it's not a good rotation for what you're trying to make. That should be obvious.

You don't need a tooltip to know why you're failing. You're failing because you didn't use enough synthesis actions to complete the item before all Durability was consumed.

How many more did you need? That depends on what you were trying to make and your gear. Look at the crafting interface. It tells you what progress you'll make at 100% efficiency. Look at your tooltips. They tell you what the efficiency of the action will be. Do the math.

What should your rotation be not only to complete synthesis but to increase the chances of getting a HQ item? Right back to it depends on your level, your gear and what you're trying to make. You might not be able to guarantee HQ on an item even using HQ mats. That's okay. Unless you're trying to complete a class quest that requires it, items don't have to be HQ when you're leveling. Your XP bonus is based on the increase to quality made through actions, not whether or not the item ends up HQ.

There's a reason why macros shared online list the difficulty plus minimum CP/control/craftsmanship requirements. There is no one size fits all crafting rotation in this game. This is not WoW with its one button, zero difficulty, gearless crafting system. I have 3 level 80 omni-crafters but I can't use the same rotation on all 3 because their gear sets are different. I can't use the same rotation to make both Pliable Glass Fiber and Facet Coat of Gathering because the difficulties are different even though both are level 80** recipes.

But I was perfectly capable of figuring out rotations and understanding why initial attempts might have failed because the information I needed was right there in the tooltips and crafting interface. I did the math and figured out what went wrong.

If you're bad at math, you're going to struggle figuring out crafting on your own. I definitely recommend using Teamcraft in that case. It's a good tool even if you're good at math but want to figure things out quicker.

I understand crafting well enough to know if your stats are too low, then no rotation what so ever is going to help you reach HQ on a craft. Tool tips tell you how much you will make and what the action does..guess what it does not tell?? That your stats are too low and that you need to up them!! Give people proper help!!


Incorrect way
1. Read your tool tips.


Proper way:

1. Read your tool tips

2. Search online or ask too see what melds you need

3. Use crafting food and pots

4. Obtain HQ mats if possible

Despite the changes too the crafting system there are people who still struggle with it. The last thing they or this community needs is some self centered know it all jerk giving them less then helpful info while spewing figure it out.

[Hasrat]

I understand crafting well enough to know if your stats are too low, then no rotation what so ever is going to help you reach HQ on a craft. Tool tips tell you how much you will make and what the action does..guess what it does not tell?? That your stats are too low and that you need to up them!!

I mean. Looking up rotations won't help with that, either.

The big problem with looking up rotations is all too often, they're aimed at high end level cap players with all their skills. Often you just end up having to work backwards as you figure out what parts of the rotation you actually have access to, and whether the rotation is still functional without the rest. OP is looking for low level advice. And, quite simply, the best advice for low level may as well just be trial and error. You won't have enough skills to put together a completely reliable rotation. And the skills you do have should be easy enough to understand how to chain together. It's not like there's very many options at that point.

Finally, it all really comes down to the same stuff regardless. How many synth steps will you need to finish craft? How many steps does that leave for touch? Is there a way you can better balance durability and CP usage?

Answer all that and you've already laid the foundation for understanding what your available rotation is. Probably it's even more important to be crafting manually and adapting at low level anyway, to better utilize your Goods and Excellents.