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    Mahrze's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kytrin View Post
    No I follow what you're saying. Make it available both ways.

    My hesitation with connecting it to housing comes from some concern about how you would implement that sort of thing in the current setup. Not just visually but practically. Like, yeah the FC does have instanced access to the workshop and member's rooms, but they've mentioned before how adding things can cause a lot of server strain. We haven't gotten a slot increase for our yards (yet) for that very reason. If an FC were to have an airship landing or geenhouse outside, that could add to that strain. Likewise, if it's inside, that would be more to load inside on top of the unique decorating everyone does anyway.

    Now, putting them into the area where the workshop and member rooms are could work (though I can't even imagine what that would look like off hand), but even that could have problems due to the sheer amount of options and data in one place. That's my concern.

    And I see that too. But outside of increased item slots for housing, it really hasn't seen anything new to it since airships. Submarines were tacked to the same workshop and just throwing a few hundred thousands of gil at an NPC is easy even for new FCs to unlock or open areas/resources within their houses.


    I can see it maybe as an NPC interface outside of the house or on the house door itself that prompts you to different facilities. Just throwing ideas at the wall so something sticks.
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    If you say so.

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    K'rina Sato
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahrze View Post
    And I see that too. But outside of increased item slots for housing, it really hasn't seen anything new to it since airships. Submarines were tacked to the same workshop and just throwing a few hundred thousands of gil at an NPC is easy even for new FCs to unlock or open areas/resources within their houses.


    I can see it maybe as an NPC interface outside of the house or on the house door itself that prompts you to different facilities. Just throwing ideas at the wall so something sticks.
    You have a good point. They really haven't done a whole lot with housing in quite a while. I suspect that may have had to do with how they were scrambling like madmen back in SB after the mess that was Shirogane, housing purchasing, and all that. They had to scramble to sort that out and that probably meant they didn't get time to work on anything else new. So we are definitely overdue for some housing love in general, I am really hoping the next live letter will give us all some good news there.

    I wonder if there might could be a mix of our suggestions? Like say... put the ACTUAL facilities out in the world as suggested, and transform the 'workshop' into a holodeck so you can set it for say Greenhouse, and it'll take you to a replica of your greenhouse where you can upgrade it, plant, harvest, etc. When you want a different one you head out and select a different setting when you go back in.

    Or, I dunno, maybe the workshop can be outfitted with a teleport you select the destination from? And in your greenhouse you have the option of either exiting into the botanist's guild or transporting back to your workshop? That would certainly give the workshop more utility lol. It could be like a central control center. You could use it to give remote orders to your crew for what to plant/mine for, and you could head over there to collect whatever you'd requested?

    That's something I would actually like to see for individuals as well as FC houses. It wouldn't take away any utility from those without houses, but the ones who do own them would get a nice convenience perk.
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    Alaeacus Orlandeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by OniKimoto View Post
    May I ask why there is a restriction on smalls and mediums when it comes to the amount of garden plots they are allowed?
    Anybody telling you that there are "limitations" in the servers are just regurgitating meaningless nonsense. No offense. Server limitations are completely relative to what SE chooses. They choose the servers they want to spend money on and they choose the space they want to utilize in a server. In the year 2020, server technology is incredible. This game is not even close to as demanding as other MMORPGs that have WAY better housing systems.

    The simple answer for why housing plots have different sized garden plots OP is...just because. It's 100% arbitrary. SE gives more rewards the people or FC's that amass large amounts of gil and play time enough to nab a large house. They created the housing system with the naive utopian thought that only FCs would want them, and that everyone will be good neighbors. In their limited imagination, they NEVER thought housing moguls would manipulate the system buying up multiple properties and gatekeeping them at a premium. When this started happening, SE dunked their head in the sand and are essentially waiting for people to stop caring.

    They've done very little to try remedying the inherent systematic flaws in the housing system. It's an afterthought. All we can really do is work with what we are given. The vast majority of complaints (feedback) tend to go nowhere.
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    Last edited by Alaeacus; 01-28-2020 at 02:41 AM.

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