AST card and divination idea

[HyoMinPark]

Personally, I think the cards should maintain their original buffs—rather than the proposed changes in the OP (Balance being increased healing potency is just weird when it has always been a damage card). There’s no need to flip-flop the buffs around like that. MitsukiKimura’s suggestion is one I can get behind—it keeps the arcana relatively the same with regards to what they used to do, addressed the power of Balance, and changed Spire from TP Refresh to something else. Not sure if I would keep the 15 second duration or up it back to 30, personally. Depends on if the cards can also be AOE’d/affected by old Royal Road effects. I would be fine with 15 seconds if we could AOE them all again. I’d rather have that than Divination and the Seals, because I don’t really like that mechanic; but maybe both could fit into a new system to appease those who don’t care for Div/Seals and for those who like it.

I’d rather have the return of AOE party buffs (and just the old Royal Road effects in general). Not a fan of the single-target melee/ranged pad cards. At that point, the cards would go to your highest melee DPS (e.g., SAM) and highest ranged DPS (e.g., BLM/SMN) without much variance because it would be a bigger gain to pad them over the DRG or NIN, or the MCH/BRD/DNC.

I also think there should be only one damage reduction card, and no healing potency increase card. Healing potency isn’t really something the healers need right now—all three are pretty over-powered in that department. Splitting held arcana into 1 offensive type card and 1 defensive type card would also allow for things like MitsukiKimura’s Bole (10% reduced damage) or their Ewer (MP Refresh) to no longer have to compete with offensive card types (Balance, Spear, Arrow). The mitigation will, obviously, always be RNG—but I like the idea of keeping a held Ewer for myself if I need the mana. Because AST really needs a secondary method of MP Refresh.

Lord and Lady should also be what they used to be: Lord is free oGCD damage ability to weave in between Malefic casts; and Lady is a min-Tetra heal to toss out as needed. AST could use another single-target oGCD heal, and Lady was nice to have back in SB if the tank needed it.

[January1997]

Personally, I think the cards should maintain their original buffs—rather than the proposed changes in the OP (Balance being increased healing potency is just weird when it has always been a damage card). There’s no need to flip-flop the buffs around like that. MitsukiKimura’s suggestion is one I can get behind—it keeps the arcana relatively the same with regards to what they used to do, .

Sorry did I wrote something wrong? The balance is indeed not a increased healing potency to begin with, but a damage reduction card and damage buff if tank or melee DPS.The Balance represents the heaven of fire—a realm made prosperous by the blessing of the Traders, but at the same time, one whose equilibrium is maintained by the divine judgment of Azeyma, the Warden. Azeyma's might will empower those who would take up their blades and mete divine punishment in the name of the sun goddess.

And yes u and MitsukiKimura’s suggestion might be right, that I has posted almost the same idea last time before edited, but u see the comment above all saying will be fishing for damage up buff. And then I edited into this and you said its too OP confusing me. @@

[HyoMinPark]

Sorry did I wrote something wrong? The balance is indeed not a increased healing potency to begin with, but a damage reduction card and damage buff if tank or melee DPS.The Balance represents the heaven of fire—a realm made prosperous by the blessing of the Traders, but at the same time, one whose equilibrium is maintained by the divine judgment of Azeyma, the Warden. Azeyma's might will empower those who would take up their blades and mete divine punishment in the name of the sun goddess.

What I was saying is we only need one: either just damage reduction or just healing potency. Personally, I think damage reduction would be better because the healers are already overpowered. I think the Bole should remain the damage reduction card as opposed to Balance, because Balance has always been an offensive card since AST was introduced in 3.0. It has never been a card to reduce damage taken or up healing potency. That’s not its lore.

These were the old card effects:

Bole: 20% reduced damage for 30 seconds
Balance: 10% damage increase for 30 seconds
Spear: 10% critical hit chance increase
Arrow: 10% reduced weaponskill/recast
Ewer: MP refresh
Spire: TP refresh

Change Spire because TP is no longer in the game, and adjust Balance to keep it from being overpowered. That’s really all that needs to be done. We don’t need increased healing potency on a card. And, as I said, I’m not a fan of the melee card/ranged card split. It promotes padding and I’m against that kind of play.

And yes u and MitsukiKimura’s suggestion might be right, that I has posted almost the same idea last time before edited, but u see the comment above all saying will be fishing for damage up buff. And then I edited into this and you said its too OP confusing me. @@

By giving us the option to hold 1 offensive card and 1 utility card, the latter no longer has to compete with the former. That was always the problem before: everything competed with old Balance and cards like Bole and Ewer were seen as “worthless”. Give us the option to have 2 Spreads—1 for offensive cards and 1 for utility cards—and that problem can be mitigated.

[January1997]

That’s not its lore.


Change Spire because TP is no longer in the game, and adjust Balance to keep it from being overpowered. That’s really all that needs to be done. We don’t need increased healing potency on a card. And, as I said, I’m not a fan of the melee card/ranged card split. It promotes padding and I’m against that kind of play.



By giving us the option to hold 1 offensive card and 1 utility card, the latter no longer has to compete with the former. That was always the problem before: everything competed with old Balance and cards like Bole and Ewer were seen as “worthless”. Give us the option to have 2 Spreads—1 for offensive cards and 1 for utility cards—and that problem can be mitigated.

It is,The Bole
This constellation is thought to be the gate to the first heaven—the heaven which holds the World Tree. Planted by the Matron and nurtured by the Keeper, the World Tree is the source from which all life is said to have sprung. The trunk of the World Tree, or the Bole, offers protection to the weak, defending them from harm. As u can see it is source from all life(which+healing potency),if you said they were healers are already overpowered? Why did u said that when there is a lot of thread that saying healers are weak or quitting healers, SE are busy slaughtering healers@@?
"By giving us the option to hold 1 offensive card and 1 utility card, the latter no longer has to compete with the former. That was always the problem before: everything competed with old Balance and cards like Bole and Ewer were seen as “worthless”. Give us the option to have 2 Spreads—1 for offensive cards and 1 for utility cards—and that problem can be mitigated."

Great idea! but the new problem is how to play the two "Spread"? new spell? new macros? swapping card? is this might be a problem for consoles player?

[YusiKha]

if you said they were healers are already overpowered? Why did u said that when there is a lot of thread that saying healers are weak or quitting healers, SE are busy slaughtering healers@@?

Those threads aren't about healers being weak or underpowered. It's about them being boring as frick to play, because there's very little engaging about any of the healers' kits.
AST is the most engaging (and even then is kinda boring), but that's due to its immense amount of weaving and party selection rather than anything fun about the kit.

[HyoMinPark]

It is,The Bole

Your post I replied to was talking about the Balance. Not Bole. You stated Balance—I replied about Balance.

I said there was no need to change Balance’s lore to damage mitigation when that’s never been its purpose in AST’s arsenal. The Bole was damage mitigation prior.

I stand by what I said about not needing a healing reduction utility. That would only be needed if healers were weak in terms of healing potency, which they are not.

"By giving us the option to hold 1 offensive card and 1 utility card, the latter no longer has to compete with the former. That was always the problem before: everything competed with old Balance and cards like Bole and Ewer were seen as “worthless”. Give us the option to have 2 Spreads—1 for offensive cards and 1 for utility cards—and that problem can be mitigated."

Great idea! but the new problem is how to play the two "Spread"? new spell? new macros? swapping card? is this might be a problem for consoles player?

I was thinking 2 Spreads. It would require an additional button. However, if AOE Royal Road effects return, the need to apply cards repeatedly only to single targets will be mitigated. The old system never required as many macros as the current one does. As a controller player on PC, I want something not cumbersome.

[January1997]

Sorry I never experienced the old system before,my suggestion is kinda a messy some.
I am sorry again about saying the healers being weak...