Castrum Fluminis is way too difficult

[Ifrinne]

id say keep trying. it took me 5 attempts as well the first time I did it. you only have to pass it once. if you luck out with a good party, it will increase your chance to win. practice makes perfect in the end.

[Niyuka]

Dear OP,
I will assume you are trolling. But in case you are not, or in case anyone agrees with your opinion, I suggest the following perspective:

FFXIV has content for a wide range of players. Most of the game is accessible to you already, requiring little to no playing skills beyond logging in, basic navigation and pressing 1-2-3 in that order repeatedly. However, you are correct that Castrum Fluminis, among other fights in the MSQ, require actual gameplay abilities and may benefit from practice, meaning its possible you fail.
Now, seeing how somebody struggling with Castrum Fluminis has already completed most of Stormblood, you have the core game and 2 full expansions of content available to you already. There will be content further down the road that you will never be able to complete, and you will be equally unhappy when you find out not everything was designed to accommodate entry level playing skill (1-2-3).
As such, and seeing how you seem thoroughly disturbed by having to try multiple times to beat Castrum Fluminis, and will possibly one day encounter even worse content that will leave you angry, lost, sad and confused, I suggest the following: Let Castrum Fluminis be your characters finale. This is YOUR Eorzea, and as so many players here unwilling to extend their gameplay skills to access content they deem hidden behind "walls", you can just decide that having access to months and months of content is enough, and your story ends at the feet of Tsukuyomi (nice feet, too!). you will see players with gear from distant lands and strange bosses that you have never seen, but that would always have been true, no matter how easy Castrum Fluminis is nerfed down to be.

I know players who play less than you, have more responsibilities in RL and still manage to beat the odd Savage raid. Its not the demanding real life that is your wall, its not the overly hard design of castrum fluminis that is the wall - the wall is in YOUR mind. But it would require effort to overcome those walls, and its a game after all ,right?
So I congratulate you on a fitting end to your heroes journey - he/she certainly saved Eorzea enough times before Tsukuyomi finally took her down,right? Let your hero, finally, rest.

[Gula]

Entire thread: STOP! Stop replying! Troll thread alert!
Everyone with a knee-jerk reaction, not even reading the first page: *deep inhale*

[RokkuEkkusu]

Very good insight, and I forgot about the stack marker during the fan phase of that fight. Though I suppose first timers should really just focus on dodging the fans. On NM, having 1-2 players outside the stack marker won't hurt too much, especially if both tanks are in there. When I did that fight my first time, there was a lot of resets because nearly everyone was new to the fight, including myself and the other healer. That was the advice given to us by a really nice and patient tank. He also tossed a marker on himself because peeps kept eating the TB while dodging the fans as well, that way they knew to stay away from him.

I did also want to point out that Qarn is actually an optional dungeon. I do believe the MSQ eventually does force you to go in there, but it is well after the minimum lv requirement to enter. It is still one of the earliest instances that players have to deal with doom. Doom is an interesting debuff because it's inflicted through various means. There are also multiple ways that it is cleansed. Sometimes a boss just straight throws it on you like in Qarn, Doomgaze, and Diabolos. Other times, it is placed on you as a result of failing a mechanic as is the case with both the Ahriman boss in WoD and Tsukuyomi. There are also other death sentence type debuffs other than doom such as Mortal Flame in Swallows Compass.

Anywho, I do agree about the fans being the biggest culprit. By themselves, they are not bad. It's a good example of distraction type mechanics where other AoEs attempt to divert your attention from the one about to slam you.

Qarn becomes a mandatory story dungeon during patch 2.1. That is why the "doom" debuff is not a first time thing in the Main Story quests.

Honestly, I was there when 4.3 dropped and I did feel that Tsukuyomi was pretty much pushing the limits for what a mandatory MSQ fight ought demand.

I feel the main issues are the min iLvl (which was probably demanded by the xpac roadmap, but is really too low for the average DF group to be comfortable; when helping people through it in 4.3 I found it went much smoother using PF and requiring 350) and the fact that there are certain mechanics combos here that are really punishing, and even beyond what Extreme demands (the most notable being that Normal - and only Normal - combines the half arena AoE with Shiva circles, and you often must wait for the Blade AoE to go off before the safe spot for circles is available; the dodge time for this can be extremely tight, and any mistakes result in a party that is very vulnerable to wiping to Lunacy).

(As an additional emphasis-aside, let's keep in mind that Shiva circles alone are considered an annoying enough mechanic that the popular PUG strats for fights featuring them - including TWO of the current ShB Extremes! - routinely simply eat one and deal with the vuln as the path of least resistance. Here you can't even afford to do that, and this for a STORY mode fight at that ...)

It's undeniably "that one boss" of SB, even more so than Shinryu.

There is a side of me that is glad the Shiva circles + conal spear aoe marker from normal mode's first phase didn't make it in Extreme mode because I've seen player have a hard time dodging it. Ironically, when the Shiva circles + Lunacy stack marker from normal mode is seen in Extreme mode too, players still flub that mechanic, especially when the EX trial was relevant (and that obviously isn't the hardest mechanic in Tsukuyomi's Pain too).

[Maero]

You do not have to be "hardcore" or "Elite" like your response to someone was. You keep saying hardcore but is not the case.
Just idk practice more and get a group together that has perhaps cleared to help you out?
Funnily enough one of the EX fights in Shadowbringers was easier then the normal version, why it was that i do not know.

[Lambdafish]

Simple solution then: nerf Tsukiyomi to 290.

[monk-dps]

Hitting striking dummies for hours is not what I subbed to this game for. This community is way too hardcore

Ok... I only got to this post before I have to comment. Look.. I know I try to look from the view of new players alot. .but you just... NO. I would've defended you until you said THIS. If you can't put in the time to practice your rotations at higher levels then you really have nothing to say on anything being hard. And yes you are trolling, but this.. THIS RIGHT HERE IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS. This here!!!

[monk-dps]

The best thing to do is not reply and let it fade into obscurity. Feeding the troll is exactly what he wants. I do see the irony in me bumping this thread (I really didn't want to), but if nothing is said, people will continue to reply and feed the troll even more.

Threads like this are why I am an advocate of a thumbs down, so we don't have to reply to show disapproval.

While I get your point.. a thumbs down would do nothing but show you how toxic and same think this place can be. Look at Reddit. Because reddit exist proves to me we DON'T need that.

[Malmstrom]

Ok... I only got to this post before I have to comment. Look.. I know I try to look from the view of new players alot. .but you just... NO. I would've defended you until you said THIS. If you can't put in the time to practice your rotations at higher levels then you really have nothing to say on anything being hard. And yes you are trolling, but this.. THIS RIGHT HERE IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS. This here!!!

How does the bait taste? I imagine it tastes like milk right when it goes bad. Like you take a sip and you're like... "Wait, is this..." -slight taste- "...blech, yep."

[seros]

Lol she's ez.