Dancer seems totally Broken in Feast

[snipski]

They seem to bring so much to the party and has the such crazy mobility for being a ranged dps.

I didnt get to play that many games yet but in like everygame ive had a
Dancer as Ranged dps they just seem so much better then any other ranged right now.

[Esmoire]

At the very least, BLM is BLM and BLM is really good. RDM is a sucky in FL but has a lot of nice survivability in The Feast and after a few tweaks will be in a nice spot.

BRD and MCH is ???? I am not sure what is happening here but it feels like DNC has the same capacity for pressure while having more DPS utility, more sustain, more mobility. It was already dodgy before but at least MCH had a stun, which was taken away. Feels like DNC and BLM are superior to their peers right now.

[Foudre_Fondue]

BRD and MCH is ???? I am not sure what is happening here but it feels like DNC has the same capacity for pressure while having more DPS utility, more sustain, more mobility.

That's because Dancer is basically just straight up superior to the other two jobs. After playing Bard throughout 3.x and 4.x, it's depressing to see how awful Bard is at the moment compared to previous seasons. I don't know what went through the dev's head when they tried to balance the physical ranged dps in 5.x, but they sure were on something while doing so lol

[BloodRubyXII]

That's because Dancer is basically just straight up superior to the other two jobs. After playing Bard throughout 3.x and 4.x, it's depressing to see how awful Bard is at the moment compared to previous seasons. I don't know what went through the dev's head when they tried to balance the physical ranged dps in 5.x, but they sure were on something while doing so lol

I miss playing Bard =[

It's still playable in Frontlines, but yea, I've tried it in Feast, no chance. You can still get kills like it's not completely awful for supporting burst, but your pressure isnt the best outside of it. It's still fixable, natures is a really good utility ability, I really like the idea of sidewinder being an execute and shadowbite being an opener on burst, cos they do actually hit hard, it just needs to do more. Or Dancer needs to contribute way less. And Repelling Shot needs to be usable all the time, not just when someone's standing on you.

Even then it's not gonna compete with FD3, Step Buffs and Saber Dance.

[BloodRubyXII]

ye cos you've not had me yet fam.

[snipski]

Monk seems broken also the burst is higher then any other melee right now and they have the best defense tool with Riddle of Earth.

Riddle of Earth Deacresed dmg taken by 10% creates a barrier that absorbs 3000 potency Compare to Shucuchi jumps away creates a shield that absorbs 1000 potency thats 2000 potency less then monks defensive tool.

[Fannah]

Monk seems broken also the burst is higher then any other melee right now and they have the best defense tool with Riddle of Earth.

Riddle of Earth Deacresed dmg taken by 10% creates a barrier that absorbs 3000 potency Compare to Shucuchi jumps away creates a shield that absorbs 1000 potency thats 2000 potency less then monks defensive tool.

Monk is also the only Melee to have 0 direct tools to run away, to hit with a ranged skill, and to build ressources from afar. Ninja has "Shukuchi" to TP away twice, DRG has his "Elusive Jump", SAM has his "Hissatsu : Soten". Monk can "dash" away only if he is in the opponent camp and is targeting an opponent in his ally side. And they don't have any ranged tool so they have to be 100% melee to deal dmg, while SAM has "Enpi" (also increasing Kenki Gauge by 10), NIN has Throwing Dagger (increasing his Ninki Gauge by 10) (15y range) + his two 25y range skills with "Three Mudra" + "Hellfrog Medium" (15y range) and his invisibility to come close without being targeted 1rst. DRG has Piercing Talon (keeping his Blood of the Dragon buff from afar) + High Jump (20y range) + 2 "Mirage Dive" (20y range) + Stardiver (20y range) + "Geirskogul" and "Nastrond" (15y range each) and even their whole AoE combo having 10y range to be pretty safe for a melee, while all other melees have an AoE around them of 5y only. So Monk has to be melee to build anything from the start (Chakras and Greased Lightning stacks), which does explain why they have a bit more resistance overall.

Compare a kit, not just 2 skills. Monks are way less safe overall. About the burst, Monk AoE skills are almost irrelevant compared to what a Ninja, DRG and SAM can do. They are less tricky, more predictable.
About the 1sec silence the Ninja has, you're not especially supposed to just use it alone. NIN is already the only one having a control among all melees, which means it can combo with the AoE CC (or not AoE) of other allies, like an AoE Stun or Sleep (Summoner or BLM) which can make the whole a way too long control to handle if used properly in team.

[Kaiche]

Rather than nerfs lets buff the other ranged jobs because they are absolute garbo

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Rather than nerfs lets buff the other ranged jobs because they are absolute garbo

Why not both at a healthy middle to prevent powercreep?

[snipski]

I can say for Ninja after playing it some it has never ever been this bad in feast before.

Ninja is actually trash tier with these nerfs, the silence dont make any impact anymore healers dont even purify it since its only 1 second.

Why did they nerf trick attack it's allready hard enough to get it of with everything breaking stealth now.

Worst survival of all melees with the shucuchi nerf.

GG SE you clearly dont have a clue how to balance things in PVP, all you had to do is make so Assassinate dont reset after kills that would have made Ninja less powerful in Frontline and making it viable in Feast at the same time.