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  1. #21
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Being able to apply glamour plates anywhere, and having more plates available (at least 1 per job, ideally at least 1 per class) are my 2 biggest wishlist items for glamour. Housing glamour dresser is on the list too, but lower priority than those two.
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  2. #22
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    Barwara's Avatar
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    Barwara Sasna
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    Zodiark
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Organizing and playing around with the glamour dresser is one of the main things I do while waiting for DF, and it's something I'd like to be able to do in my apartment as well, since it's the place I entend to go to chill while waiting for things such DF/PF. I can't comment on the technical difficulties of implanting this, but I can vouch for it being something desirable and something I'd want to support..
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  3. #23
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    InkB's Avatar
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    Ink F'rahko
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    Omega
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    Sage Lv 90
    Supposedly if 2 people were to use the dresser at same time, or that it was removed while someone was using it would cause servers to crash so badly they couldnt be recovered.

    Going into main city to do dresser is small hassle compared to making this happen. Yes I would like it too, but I think they considered dev time vs "just let player load into city and be done with it"..the loading won.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InkB View Post
    So I ask:
    If CC is okay why wouldnt I be allowed to ask for E10 boss? Then I can just say "Just dont buy it lel" and "nah fam its ok, you are just using slippery slope. Its just 2 bosses bro its fine. It wont happen again. At least we arent WoW!"

  4. #24
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    LittleStrawberryFox's Avatar
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    Sapheena Rane
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    Adamantoise
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    Monk Lv 77

    Ok time for a little correct , clarify and add additional info on this topic.

    1# Glamor stations are not what hold your items nor would your items be effected if you delete them. (Delete the Glamor Station)
    2# Items that are put into the glamor station get saved as a call (Computer programming that uses most likely either Python or MYSQL) database to store the name of the item it does not store more then that, this is why it warns you that all things such as Materia, spirit bond to zero, signatures removed, dyes removed etc will all be lost. it will just it be a stock item, You see if you have lets say Augmented legs of aiming with 2 sockets and dyed blue, as soon as you put that into the glamor station all that data gets erased and turns into something like this for its call identifier.
    -(LQ or HQ) Augmented boots of Aiming IL 60 (Query Amor DB for item ID xxxx.xxxx (xxxx.xxxx <-This is a numerical ID # given to that object for calls to the database to go faster and with less chance of a wrong item being displayed due to a naming error.
    (From now on I am going to call the Augmented Boots of Aiming just ABOA to save time)

    So now when you open the glamor station you see one of the items you want and make it a glamor panel, and choice requests the model information for the ABOS from the Master Armor DB for FFXIV and retried how the item looks by default.

    Now to put this together to make sense let me explain how things are stored.
    Continued in my next post.
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    ~LittleStrawberryFox~

  5. #25
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    LittleStrawberryFox's Avatar
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    Sapheena Rane
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    Adamantoise
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    Monk Lv 77
    > Toon name: Sprinkel Pony
    -> Gear in Armory chest. (Then a list of all that gear.)
    -> Invintory. (list of whatever your toon had on them.
    -> _Glamor Dresser
    -> ID# xxxx.xxxxx - ABOA
    -> ID xxxx.xxxxx ACOA
    -> and on and on.

    These items are stored in your character data itself, they are not tired to a specific glamor station, if that was the case it would mean you could only go back to that specific one you used to see those items, the same goes for Guild chests, and wardrobes, they are just interfaces that make calls to your ID linked to your character. ITEMS ARE NOT tied to the actual Glamor station in the slightest it just gives you an interface to see, deposit, setup and changes glamor's based off the items you have already put in, so its like you, yourself do not carry all the information about your driving, or medical coverage, you have cards that access databases and gives the proper person that info, you don't store that info in you same things here, all that gear data is tired on their servers with short numerical numbers that the api uses to load the actual items from the main FFXIV database. And even if your guild leader came over and clicked and stored the Glamor station while you were using it, nothing would happen to your items, no different then if your internet dropped, the item does not get deleted.
    So in summary there is no programming issues with making this happen I should know and this is how databases work and I would guess they are most likely using python, MYSQL or IBM AI if they really wanted to make it more robust and faster, but either way that is what these massive databases are for, to store all this information.
    The Glamor Station is just a Game Object, that gives you access to use specific features, but that has nothing to do with there being an issue and you losing your gear if it was moved or deleted and most things like that are also layered in game so its probable that in every inn room there are thousands of layers that other players are using to access their Glamor Station and that does not effect yours same with the guild bank, you can access it anywhere and the items are there, and in your Inn room you can put something in it, in New Grandia and go to Ishgaurd and its there. Because the item code ID# is what is attached to your character and that just send out a call to the master DB for the full info on that item, hence that few moments of lag when you click on it, but the more you put in there the more calls to that armor, weapon, earing's etc DB has to be made and so if you load up the Glamor Station it takes progressively more info as it has to Quarry 3verytime you open it from the Master DB server for the details on the item so you can see it and then set up panels.
    Cont in next post...
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    ~LittleStrawberryFox~

  6. #26
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    LittleStrawberryFox's Avatar
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    Sapheena Rane
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    Adamantoise
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    Monk Lv 77
    So there is no actually programming issue here, they already have these types of items in the game already with company chests, and bells, mannequins, and a whole whack of other things, The second poster that said it is a programming issue is unfortunately incorrect, it is not any of the reasons listed, same with having your wardrobe and crystal bell, summoning bell, etc these items are just api calls that load an interface that has no data saved to any 1 specific Glamor Station just to your Character.
    I should know, oh wait I do actually :P
    Personally they should just let you bring up the full interface when you are in a major city and I don't just mean to cast the glamor, but to have the whole api call for the Glamor Station load so you can do all you want as long as you are in a major city.

    Anyways, I hope this helps everyone as I too would like to get one in my person apartment on my estate, I want to get everything they have in an Inn in my room, my one stop shop as it where. Honestly I thought buying my own an apartment would by default let me have the same features as an inn but just those things maybe a bed and I would have to add the rest, but maybe some day.

    Hope this helps to have clarified things for anyone that helps help understanding whats actually going on.

    Take care and have fun out there Meow! >..<~
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    ~LittleStrawberryFox~

  7. #27
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    Seleni's Avatar
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    Seleni Cereus
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    Jenova
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    Alchemist Lv 80
    What you described is the armoire. The glamour dresser has its own storage part that keeps dye data, and it ties in with the glamour plates (which keeps their own separate dye data), so it’s a likely a bit more complicated.
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  8. #28
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    StealthPaladin's Avatar
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    T'anehr Nunh
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    Malboro
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    From a programming perspective, I'd have to guess that the problem isn't bringing up your glamour inventory so much as it usually being tied to a solo-instance area. I'd be guessing with little to go off after that, but it would make sense that it could have to do with something in the client/server handling of gear.

    When you show up on someone else's screen having zoned in, the other players' computers had time to find out about you and your appearance some how or another. So if max people are in a house, and then you open the glamour dresser, now everyone's client has to account for more than just your personal inventory and Amoury, and it probably wasn't made to do so.

    idk if that's the case, but I'd bet 5 million gil it does have something to do with the solo-instance aspect. If that's the case, the suggestion of having a changing-area is probably the best and easiest to implement. Perhaps Feo Ul or some Allagan machination can allow us access to pocket dimensional storage in a solo instance similar to dealing with Jandelaine
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  9. #29
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    SilverSp's Avatar
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    Silver Spikes
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    Brynhildr
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    Warrior Lv 90
    They cant even program enough plots for everyone who pays for the game . yet you think they care about your glamour dresser programming issue ?? LOL
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  10. #30
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    Vidu's Avatar
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSp View Post
    They cant even program enough plots for everyone who pays for the game . yet you think they care about your glamour dresser programming issue ?? LOL
    The lack of housing plots isnt a programming issue, its an issue with actual lack of physical server space (and maybe a design issue if you will - insisting on non-instance housing).
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