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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    Mainly mounts, but yeah there's just too much stuff that's impossible to get. Either it's behind the PvP wall or exclusive to Feast prizes, it's behind the overpriced Mogstation paywall or it's simply been removed from the game and impossible to get at all, like the Regalia or the GARO items (I'm still pissed off about being denied any GARO mounts because Squeenix could be bothered to properly balance PVP and locked me to Serpents when Maelstrom always wins.)
    That's not impossible...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makeda View Post
    That's not impossible...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    Mainly mounts, but yeah there's just too much stuff that's impossible to get. Either it's behind the PvP wall or exclusive to Feast prizes, it's behind the overpriced Mogstation paywall or it's simply been removed from the game and impossible to get at all, like the Regalia or the GARO items (I'm still pissed off about being denied any GARO mounts because Squeenix could be bothered to properly balance PVP and locked me to Serpents when Maelstrom always wins.)

    It's utterly ridiculous. Why do we need to have half the content in this game barred from being obtained just from playing the game? Is my $15/mo not good enough for you, Squeenix?
    Half the content in the game isn't barred to you. None of it is. You're free to do it. You just need to put in the required effort.

    Rewards are not content. They are an incentive to do content. If you didn't get the rewards you wanted, it's because you didn't put in the required effort.

    No one is locked to their Grand Company. You're free to transfer to one of the others once you reach Second Lieutenant in your current GC. You could have switched if you felt that was the only way you were going to earn what you wanted then switched back once you had those things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Omymy View Post

    Creating objects that you can't get anymore is a lousy marketing strategy, especially since in casual MMO games the collector's figure its important.
    Exclusive rewards can be an excellent marketing strategy because they encourage people to buy and play now if they want to get that reward.

    It's only an entitled person that's going to go "I refuse to play that game because I can't get that one single item that was only available last year".

    Quote Originally Posted by Omymy View Post

    Putting rewards like GARO items for PvP so that people have a reason to enter is another lousy strategy. Instead of doing that you should ask yourself what is the game doing wrong to put that mode in such a poor state since it came out.
    Garo was a licensing agreement between SE and another company. The agreement expired. Players were given several months of advance notice that the items would no longer be available once 5.1 was released and that they should work on getting those items before it arrived. SE is not the one to blame if a player decided they weren't going to put in the required effort.

    Quote Originally Posted by Omymy View Post

    And by the way, the fact that many of the best mounts are from cash shops and have those prices is not something that should make you laugh, eh.
    It's subjective what the best mounts are. My personal best mounts are ones that i've earned through game play and they're the ones you'll always see me using. Most of the mogstation mounts don't appeal to me at all. I only have the carbuncles because a friend thought they were too cute and gifted them to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    Mainly mounts, but yeah there's just too much stuff that's impossible to get. Either it's behind the PvP wall or exclusive to Feast prizes, it's behind the overpriced Mogstation paywall or it's simply been removed from the game and impossible to get at all, like the Regalia or the GARO items (I'm still pissed off about being denied any GARO mounts because Squeenix could be bothered to properly balance PVP and locked me to Serpents when Maelstrom always wins.)

    It's utterly ridiculous. Why do we need to have half the content in this game barred from being obtained just from playing the game? Is my $15/mo not good enough for you, Squeenix?

    Some things should be exclusive for players who do the things required to get them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    Why do we need to have half the content in this game barred from being obtained just from playing the game??
    isnt that how games work? what do you want exactly? log in and just get everything? then theres no reason to play the game and you would post how easy everything is to get. they are rewards for playing the game. what would be the point of playing this game then? iam rly confused about this post.
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    Well this blew up. I guess I need to make clarifications now.

    I am not asking to be awarded things for logging in. I would like the opportunity to get them but a great number of them are unobtainable through normal play.

    PvP in this game is beyond terrible and absolutely not fun. It's an ungodly stressor that raises my blood pressure, like most PvP games do. I didn't come here for PvP and judging by the replies I don't think most people did either. If you have to have super exclusive rewards because no one would play your PvP otherwise, then maybe the PvP needs to be overhauled so that people will want to play it. The fact that everything is tied to victories makes it worse, since this automatically leads to tryharding, screaming, and the fact that every PvP person goes to Mael which is why they win 99% of the time. The Feast is even worse since items like the Mag Roader are gone forever and they only gave like 100 away to people who do nothing but PvP. That just makes no sense at all. Again, if you need to bar people out of content to get people to play your PvP then there's a problem with your PvP.

    GARO. I came into this game very late in it's lifespan, in patch 4.5. I had no idea about most of the GARO awards until there was less than a week to claim them, you know because I was doing MSQ for most of this time. I had moved to the Adder to pick up their exclusive items, and I was stuck there for 15 days. Not able to move GCs until the very minute GARO was locked into the vault forever. Since Mael is where all the PvP players coagulate, meaning Mael wins 99% of Frontlines and freelancing has a precisely 0% chance of landing you on Mael, I could not get the rewards. So I spent a week of my life futiley throwing myself at Frontline and didn't get any of the mounts and only some of the armor pieces.

    I'm well aware of the fact that a number of items tend to end up on the Mogstation, but the prices on the Mogstation are ridiculously high. I'm sorry but no one should EVER be paying $30 for a mount and leaving that as the only way to get most of the past event items smacks of being greedy. I know you all want to use the excuse of "Square needs to make money!" but I don't think Square needs money that badly. They don't even put the stuff on sale ever. Furthermore, not all the stuff ends up on the Mogstation. The Regalia isn't there. I have it, but one of my friends started playing a couple months ago so she has no way to get one. Also there are minions that you can only get with out of print box items. I'm sorry, but that's also completely screwed up. If the box set or soundtrack can't sell itself, then attaching in-game items to it is just a sign of greed.

    One other thing, when exactly did playing FFXIV become my job, and if it's now my job why am I paying Squeenix instead of them paying me?

    Don't get me wrong, I love this game. I love it a lot, but that's also why I need to point out things that make the game less enjoyable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    Since Mael is where all the PvP players coagulate, meaning Mael wins 99% of Frontlines and freelancing has a precisely 0% chance of landing you on Mael
    Not true! I did get freelanced into Mael once. I greeted then with "I am so confused! I've never been sorted to Mael before?!?"

    The joked back, it was fun. Probably my fault, but they didn't win that match..... sorry Mael
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    How to be entitled brat!!!
    Drop to the ground pound your fists, kick your feet and scream cause the game is not showering you with all the goodies you want. Want to be showered with goodies like a spoiled rotten child, go play mobile games cause thats exactly what they do.
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    GARO was in this game for over two years. It started at the end of HW (sometime around Patch 3.5) and ended in Patch 5.1. They made multiple announcements about the collaboration coming to an end. These were present on the Lodestone AND on the launcher when you would start up the game. Honestly, it’s not the game’s fault that you decided the last week of the event to try and get the items.
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