Quote Originally Posted by Deusteele View Post
If you're looking for a hard no about the possible of her having tempered the WoL or associates, we don't have that.

We do know that the WoL from the first shard and WoL from the thirteen shard are able to act against what would be considered Hydaelyn's goals and motives while cooperating with Ascians. While as this is quite circumstantial, it is a decent amount of evidence that discredits the "Hydealyn Tempering" theory.
In much the same way as Urianger co-operates with the Ascians during the WoDs arc? After all Unulkhai actually allies himself with us, doesn't he? I mean, when does he ally himself with the Ascians? Elidibus 'rescues' him but we never actually find out the motive for that, and Unulkhai more or less becomes a Scion after the Warring Triad. Or are you maybe thinking he's a double (triple?) agent?

The WoLs from the First were dead, it was their souls that plotted with the Ascians. Does tempering persist after death? When all the people tempered by Ifrit are reborn, are they still his willing slaves?

I mean, there is as much evidence to logically infer that Emet-Selch lied all along and neither Zodiark nor Hydaelyn are primals. Actually there's more evidence to infer that than to infer that Hydaelyn is a primal who doesn't temper her followers