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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightmore View Post
    In a storytelling a villain can defeat the hero, but not obliterate it. His fall is sure, what a villain can do is kill a hero's friend, it´s the only way to really reach us, such happened with Ysayle and Haucherfart. For him to become an uber villain would require a symbyose with Zodiark and he losing completely his will, just being a puppet.
    That isn't much different than Elidibus being in possession of Zenos' body. At that point, you're not fighting the real Zenos. I think that's part of the problem with him. The fight at Ghimlyt Dark was shaped up to be this 'showdown', and most of us are thinking, "Yeah... that's not really Zenos." A fluttering perspective out there might see it as simply the WoL stepping in the foil another Ascian plot.

    Up to now, it was ok to place the will of Zodiark into the Ascians because being an agent of Zodiark is how they are established. Zenos clearly is not tempered in anyway and has a will of his own. To thrust Zodiark's will into him (even though they likely have the same goal of eliminating Hydaelyn's champion) would basically kill his character. From what I gather, I think more people want Zenos to be an iconic villain worthy of representing XIV in Dissidia than they want him killed off.

    Great villains don't tend to peak and valley. They are pretty consistent and often continue to escalate until finally defeated if on screen, or continue to get hyped up if an off screen villain. I thought Zenos' implementation was really well done. He was hyped up in HW, and came in with his game face on at the Reach. It was all going so well, but when the time came to deliver, the devs didn't have the nads to have him kill Y'shtola. That would have did it. We all would be hating the hell out of him right now for the reasons the devs intended.

    I won't deny that it takes some seriously big juevos to kill of a well-liked and received character. Minfillia? So easy, they've done it multiple times. Y'shtola? Woo boy. That window of opportunity has passed now though. The best they can do with Zenos at this point is at least make him consistent. Making him a puppet or plot stoning a significant death are too big of swings in either direction.
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    Last edited by Gemina; 01-19-2020 at 12:22 AM.