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    Bright-Flower's Avatar
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    But what's this! In the Stormblood patches, Zenos is ressurected in a new body. Lacking his garlean body and underlings/connections, he must go on a quest to regain what was his! Perhaps using strategy and thought to slowly carve his way back to reclaim his body! Maybe Zenos in Shadowbringers will actually go through an interesting arc! Not a redemption arc that would be silly but maybe something to expand his character and make him struggle!

    ....nope. He accomplishes his goal mostly offscreen and with no real obstacles to slow him down. He's so OP that he can decimate Elidibus in his own superior body, and fight off Gaius and Estinien at the same time, and pretty much do whatever he wants because he's basically an overpowered shoenen antagonist I guess. It's hard for me to fathom that the same expansion that did Emet-Selch SO WELL managed to completely drop the ball in what COULD have been an intresting direction to take Zenos, rushing through it like an afterthought to put him back to normal.
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    Vari Myste
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    ....nope. He accomplishes his goal mostly offscreen and with no real obstacles to slow him down.
    Zenos in a nutshell. Zenos reminds me of Pepe le Pew, but with a golfbag of swords.

    Thing is, he's so far out of our mind that the WoL isn't even actively concerned about him because his pursuit is mostly just words and we never know what he's doing except through cutscenes. We aren't even running from him, we're just too busy with other stuff. The whole effect is kinda lost.
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    But what's this! In the Stormblood patches, Zenos is ressurected in a new body. Lacking his garlean body and underlings/connections, he must go on a quest to regain what was his! Perhaps using strategy and thought to slowly carve his way back to reclaim his body! Maybe Zenos in Shadowbringers will actually go through an interesting arc! Not a redemption arc that would be silly but maybe something to expand his character and make him struggle!

    ....nope. He accomplishes his goal mostly offscreen and with no real obstacles to slow him down. He's so OP that he can decimate Elidibus in his own superior body, and fight off Gaius and Estinien at the same time, and pretty much do whatever he wants because he's basically an overpowered shoenen antagonist I guess. It's hard for me to fathom that the same expansion that did Emet-Selch SO WELL managed to completely drop the ball in what COULD have been an intresting direction to take Zenos, rushing through it like an afterthought to put him back to normal.
    And that's the issue - he could be interesting and threatening, but he just isn't at the moment, and it's mostly down to delivery. He comes across as goofy rather than terrifying. Shows next to no reaction to the new powers he is manifesting... just reminds everyone of how constantly bored he is.

    Idk if it's down to them just being afraid of him (or anyone at this point) actually causing some lasting damage to the "good guys"? The biggest risk the Scions have been confronted with so far is G'raha accidentally summoning them to the First... Emet-Selch reversed the one death there could have been.
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware: