More Options for Character Growth

[Exni]

Bringing good ideas that work well is great and i don't care where it is from. I'm against pple wanting ideas from other games just for the sake of making XIV feel like that other game. Like gear swap... there's a bunch of threads about it, 99% are against it, S-E says they will not do it. Yet some hardcore XI fans keep begging for it.

Yeah this is a little OT but that gear swap response we got was actually trash too. Gave us the typical "well XIV is based on an armoury system so switching weapons would switch jobs" mess.. How about we can jus swap armor? Or maybe only swapping JSE? Nope, they jus railroaded the whole thing (which I'm sure pleased all those against it..) with a "oh that won't work here..". Actually, creating your gear swap builds correctly would add more customization and specialization too! Ok, now back OT..

[Elexia]

Seriously aren't you ashamed of always being wrong? stop talking.

Wasn't it you who said that someone needs to grow up? lol.

By the way:

now there's so many sub genres to the MMORPG world it doesn't even matter the classification.

Yeah it does suck always being wrong, eh Oni?

[Onidemon]

Yeah this is a little OT but that gear swap response we got was actually trash too. Gave us the typical "well XIV is based on an armoury system so switching weapons would switch jobs" mess.. How about we can jus swap armor? Or maybe only swapping JSE? Nope, they jus railroaded the whole thing (which I'm sure pleased all those against it..) with a "oh that won't work here..". Actually, creating your gear swap builds correctly would add more customization and specialization too! Ok, now back OT..

I find there were a lot more people saying that it is just a bad concept and that they wouldn't want to be forced to carry extra gear to be considered good players. S-E anyways said they wouldn't do it and that they wouldnt change their minds either so i dont see the point in asking for it again or making a petition.

Just like this thread here. There used to be a lot of similar threads in the beggining but now pple seems to be satisfied with the current system so im not gonna start the same subject again next week.

[Phobos]

*Looks at last few pages*

Boy, this thread hasn't derailed completely or anything...

[Delmontyb]

I wouldn't mind some type of merit system etc. Allowing players to spend points to enhance certain skills. Heck, you could bring back AP, and award it for crafting/killing mobs. It would be a low number, 1 or 2, but you could get gear that increased this rate.

Then, you could spend it on leveling up skills. Reducing cast time, increasing damage, etc. There are a lot of possibilities. Sure it's something else to "level" and this might not be the solution. But it would add to the cap. The question is would AP be class exclusive, or could you use it across all classes, thus allowing you to merit other classes while playing your main, or vise versa.

The other question I would have for this idea is, would it start at 50, or start at a lower level. Really I don't know. But if SE is to do something, I'm excited to see what that is. They have such a rich history of different ideas.

[Seirra_Lanzce]

*Looks at last few pages*

Boy, this thread hasn't derailed completely or anything...

i concur with that.

[carlosx]

lol give a break to devs they having a great deal try to turning game sistem into something usefull and interesting and some people
just giving a hard time asking: i want this, why we dont have this, and but they have this lol this is soo lame
think on something totaly new. and posted and im sure they will like the idea.. but telling they to (select FFXI folder) copy ...... paste and overright (FFXIV folder) this is not what this forums are for bros lets take it easy.


yoshi-p pls keep goin the way you goin we belive on we can make it true

pls focus on whats coming ahead new map new grefics disg we goin to lol@ wow we playing the first game 3d and full HD MMO on the market just give then the time they asked for make the change into 2.0 and if they fail.

we just leave and back to ffxi. guys i played ffxi for 8years and i think here we have potential. first

NO job tree.....
this goin to destroid the fundamentals of the game.
dev quoted ( ff games alow players to try all ingame connten and options jobs skills and abilitys to let you decide what fits you.....
look game progress into a tree sistem will goin totaly in opoccion to this.... well forgetme my broken english. but i dont like use google traslate to post i just explain thing the best way i can.

we have to many changes incoming and too much things to do lets work together for make something REALLY EPIC.....

[ThePatriarch]

True constructive arguments are hard to come by on here.

You have too many immature souls who are just out to prove their own personal opinion, and are not open to criticism from others.

[Dragon]

If we want more customization, I'd offer an XIV-version of Aion's own stigma system (best ever, IMO).

It failed as an MMO, yes.

I didn't even know it qualified as an MMO, I remember the devs just calling it an online RPG.

[Majidah]

Know what's neat about ffxiv? It's not wow.

Your character is not a clone of the next 50blm, unless you're a clone of the person controlling that other 50blm. This is where the importance of a neat little concept called "player skill" comes in. Look at life, the best racecar drivers don't win because one drives backwards, another drives sideways, and two do barrel rolls. They win because everyone drives forward, around a track, but someone does it a little better. Even among the best the difference in skill is minimal, because of the practice. Then there's the idiot bringing up the tail end of the pack because he has no idea what he's doing, probably because he went out and had all his jobs PL'd to 50. He's not THAT much worse than the other drivers, but there is an undeniable difference between how fast they switch from nukes to enfeebling, and don't randomly cast the wrong spell or mis-negotiate a turn.

And then there's the "but it's a game, it's not THAT hard". No, and neither is starcraft, yet your ass gets zerg rushed everything so you ragequit. Experience(irl) makes a difference.

ffxiv requires skill. right.