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    Quote Originally Posted by monk-dps View Post
    It's the voice acting in English that kills me. It sounds like a high school play with their over pronounced old English accents. I got so sick of hearing words like MAYHAP when they could've used maybe or something more used.
    I personally like it when they use stuff like "mayhap" and "anyroad", I think it adds to the immersion
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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    I personally like it when they use stuff like "mayhap" and "anyroad", I think it adds to the immersion
    Yeah, I don't know if "anyroad" was ever in real use, but it's a nice touch of being slightly different to our English, while remaining clear in its meaning. They speak the same language but it took some different turns when evolving compound words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Yeah, I don't know if "anyroad" was ever in real use, but it's a nice touch of being slightly different to our English, while remaining clear in its meaning. They speak the same language but it took some different turns when evolving compound words.
    Anyroad is still in use in fact. It's a regular daily expression where I live (Yorkshire in the UK) it means 'be that as it may' As in "anyroad I don't care what you say, I'm still going'. A variant is 'anyroadup'. And some folks around here also say mayhap (well, it's more like may'ap) or sometimes just 'happen'. As in "happen she'll come" instead of "maybe she'll come". So a lot of what may sound archaic to some is just local dialect to others. Broad Yorkshire, like Broad Geordie or broad Potteries, is practically a foreign language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elladie View Post
    Anyroad is still in use in fact. It's a regular daily expression where I live (Yorkshire in the UK) it means 'be that as it may' As in "anyroad I don't care what you say, I'm still going'. A variant is 'anyroadup'. And some folks around here also say mayhap (well, it's more like may'ap) or sometimes just 'happen'. As in "happen she'll come" instead of "maybe she'll come". So a lot of what may sound archaic to some is just local dialect to others. Broad Yorkshire, like Broad Geordie or broad Potteries, is practically a foreign language.
    Ah, cool. I've never heard it used outside of the game, but it's clearly an equivalent to "anyway" with a similar construction and logical meaning, especially in context.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    I personally like it when they use stuff like "mayhap" and "anyroad", I think it adds to the immersion
    I was debating with a friend about this as he asked why I hate it. I told him this cause you have the same thought he does. How does it help immersion? This isnt earth. So them using those terms should be more offputting cause it's not old English. Why are they using those terms? It's no better then them all of a sudden saying hip hop slang. Just speak normal like in other ff titles. Why do we need lame badly spoken high school play in out xiv? Who thought that was good? I dunno. I hate it. It's why I just go full anime and put it in Japanese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monk-dps View Post
    I was debating with a friend about this as he asked why I hate it. I told him this cause you have the same thought he does. How does it help immersion? This isnt earth. So them using those terms should be more offputting cause it's not old English. Why are they using those terms? It's no better then them all of a sudden saying hip hop slang. Just speak normal like in other ff titles. Why do we need lame badly spoken high school play in out xiv? Who thought that was good? I dunno. I hate it. It's why I just go full anime and put it in Japanese.
    By the logic of “this isn’t Earth”, you’re making it sound as if any Earth language would be inappropriate. “Mayhap” and “anyroad” aren’t Old English words. Old English, as I said to you before, is completely unrecognizable from any form of English you would understand. It’s so far derived from Modern English that English speakers have to be taught it like they do a foreign language.

    Mayhap” is actually from Middle English—the ME word “hap” means “chance” or “fortune”.

    “Anyroad” is still in use today in some local dialects (as another poster pointed out above). It may sound strange to those not from the area that it’s used it—but that’s how dialects are. It would be the same if I used my Southeastern American dialect when I wrote posts.

    The bad voice acting likely makes it seem like a “badly spoken high school play”—but if the VAs were better, it likely wouldn’t sound that bad. If you understood Japanese while holding your same opinion about the English, you’d likely feel the same way. It’s only because you don’t understand what’s being said in the Japanese audio that you don’t find it strange, in my opinion.

    I think the jargon they use can be charming. It’s the bad voice-acting that’s so off-putting to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    By the logic of “this isn’t Earth”, you’re making it sound as if any Earth language would be inappropriate. “Mayhap” and “anyroad” aren’t Old English words. Old English, as I said to you before, is completely unrecognizable from any form of English you would understand. It’s so far derived from Modern English that English speakers have to be taught it like they do a foreign language.

    Mayhap” is actually from Middle English—the ME word “hap” means “chance” or “fortune”.

    “Anyroad” is still in use today in some local dialects (as another poster pointed out above). It may sound strange to those not from the area that it’s used it—but that’s how dialects are. It would be the same if I used my Southeastern American dialect when I wrote posts.

    The bad voice acting likely makes it seem like a “badly spoken high school play”—but if the VAs were better, it likely wouldn’t sound that bad. If you understood Japanese while holding your same opinion about the English, you’d likely feel the same way. It’s only because you don’t understand what’s being said in the Japanese audio that you don’t find it strange, in my opinion.

    I think the jargon they use can be charming. It’s the bad voice-acting that’s so off-putting to me.
    I saw your replies, I'm just wording my own opinions badly. I'll admit that. And I'm willing to bet the japanese voice acting isnt badly directed. I cant help but feel how I feel when they use words like mayhap instead of maybe. Or the badly directed voice acting. But you might have a point as my real issue isnt the words but how the actors say those words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monk-dps View Post
    I was debating with a friend about this as he asked why I hate it. I told him this cause you have the same thought he does. How does it help immersion? This isnt earth. So them using those terms should be more offputting cause it's not old English. Why are they using those terms? It's no better then them all of a sudden saying hip hop slang. Just speak normal like in other ff titles. Why do we need lame badly spoken high school play in out xiv? Who thought that was good? I dunno. I hate it. It's why I just go full anime and put it in Japanese.
    It's not Earth, so it shouldn't be able to represent any span of language save the most standard and contemporary vernacular, even when having characters whose language would almost certainly vary in some part from the regionally standard, contemporary, or most "common" register?

    Also, other FF titles... have used strange, almost "hip hop" slang at times. That kind of variance has been one of its reoccurring charms.

    ...Maybe they should stop wearing any varied clothing as well?...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    It's not Earth, so it shouldn't be able to represent any span of language save the most standard and contemporary vernacular, even when having characters whose language would almost certainly vary in some part from the regionally standard, contemporary, or most "common" register?

    Also, other FF titles... have used strange, almost "hip hop" slang at times. That kind of variance has been one of its reoccurring charms.

    ...Maybe they should stop wearing any varied clothing as well?...
    - points to my very last reply here.- You'll find my answer there. but just incase... I don't like the voice acting in ARR. I feel the voice direction was bad so I put it in japanese. It just sounds better now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monk-dps View Post
    - points to my very last reply here.- You'll find my answer there. but just incase... I don't like the voice acting in ARR. I feel the voice direction was bad so I put it in japanese. It just sounds better now.
    Is that ARR specifically? or does that include HW to ShB as well? Just curious, since the voice acting from HW to (especially) ShB has improved massively. I still miss Urianger and Merlwyb, but dang the current cast of voice actors are fantastic. The range of accents is really nice, too.
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