RDM level boost

[Silverquick]

serious? xD u argued 2 month with the community „that u never just dps but heal and res a lot cause it’s part of the toolkit“ - you said parses don’t show reality because parser won’t use those skills like you do.

Another Strawman argument. I never said any of that.

I do recall saying that after I got some experience in high level Shadowbringer instances that I ended up spending so much time Ressing and backup healing that my DPS suffered for it and a lot of other RDMs likely do too.
Due to so many deaths and near party wipes in Alliance Raids and other Trials where half the party including healers would constantly go down. The only reason they didn't total wipe was because I actually did that up to and including filling in to heal the Tank to keep him alive while simultaneously Verraising the Healers and even some DPS like SMNs to assist in Raising. Because the healer doesn't Instantly have MP back once raised.

Ergo... Logs in many cases do not show true RDM DPS and get included bringing the average down when it does not reflect reality.

Aside of that? It’s about tricks? So using dual cast (a basic cls mechanic) for heal & res is a trick? What about the several time in a row argument? U simply can’t (better shouldn’t) cause u will penalty yourself if u do with an empty manapool.

Verrraise does not cost 10,000 MP to cast it costs 2400. So you can do multiples in a row and you still have Lucid Dreaming for MP restore plus Super Ethers.

That is enough to Raise both Healers, the Tank, and possibly at your choosing a DPS like an RDM or SMN who can assist.

Yet it’s still not personal but just misleading, if not even false, information you spread.

No Neela, you are describing yourself.

[Neela]

Another Strawman argument. I never said any of that.

Oh really?... its not the first time people must remind you of your own words. cause u often came around with "never said that".
So let me give you a helping hand:

That's great and all.

But after personal experience now with RDM.

I simply do not and have never spent the majority of my time DPSing in a Raid. I'm doing one of three things, my time is divided between DPSing, Healing, and Raising.

So I cannot put much stock in FFlogs when it comes to measuring DPS from a RDM.

Fair enough,

But also consider that you were talking about an "average" from FF Logs... so you have to account for the fact a lot of Red Mage DPS being submitted probably also includes a lot of RDMs who have to do exactly what I said.

So its just not really possible to take the DPS outputs from FFLogs with regards to Red Mage to be much different as they too would include a lot of Red Mages who split their time DPS, Healing, and Ressing.

Parses are the „only“ reality my dear. They are calculated on set values not on „your weird feelings“. High % player proof they get the games base mechanics and mastered the optimization on their respective cls. Grey % (your status) just shows that you struggle A LOT with uptime or simple just didn’t get your base rotation yet. And that is a hard fact - if you like it or not. Even the try to explain your factory run just shows your inexperience. There is not much output from balance which you can argue about - those who do, do it just because of one reason: they don't understand it. See? Its not about that one specific run but about your overall understanding about how things work. And that is sadly not much:

Verrraise does not cost 10,000 MP to cast it costs 2400. So you can do multiples in a row and you still have Lucid Dreaming for MP restore plus Super Ethers.
That is enough to Raise both Healers, the Tank, and possibly at your choosing a DPS like an RDM or SMN who can assist.

If you ever encounter such a scenario in endgame (out of progress or full BiS party) your task as RDM is absolutely not to res anyone but to jump off the edge and wipe that run on purpose cause you would never pass upcoming dps checks or the enrage - yet again you would know that if you would play endgame at all. There are no situations (other than running casual dailys) where multiple res' are worth at all. You have no clue how to use combat res on smn/rdm in serious content cause you never played that kind of content up until now – but curiously are talking like you would lead the Balance Discord yourself.

But what should I say if you even forgot what you said 2 weeks ago… this will never end. Check, make your move.

No Neela, you are describing yourself.

Oh than gimme an example where I mislead or spread false information like you do in nearly every post - im *really* curious what u gonna come up with : )

[Silverquick]

Oh really?... its not the first time people must remind you of your own words. cause u often came around with "never said that".
So let me give you a helping hand:

Are you really that delusional?

What you quoted says exactly what I just said above...

Silverquick yesterday:
I do recall saying that after I got some experience in high level Shadowbringer instances that I ended up spending so much time Ressing and backup healing that my DPS suffered for it and a lot of other RDMs likely do too.

Due to so many deaths and near party wipes in Alliance Raids and other Trials where half the party including healers would constantly go down. The only reason they didn't total wipe was because I actually did that up to and including filling in to heal the Tank to keep him alive while simultaneously Verraising the Healers and even some DPS like SMNs to assist in Raising. Because the healer doesn't Instantly have MP back once raised.

Ergo... Logs in many cases do not show true RDM DPS and get included bringing the average down when it does not reflect reality.

It says exactly what you just quoted from 2 months ago ... namely THIS...
And it does not match your claim of... "„that u never just dps but heal and res a lot cause it’s part of the toolkit“

Silverquick 2 Months ago
That's great and all.

But after personal experience now with RDM.

I simply do not and have never spent the majority of my time DPSing in a Raid. I'm doing one of three things, my time is divided between DPSing, Healing, and Raising.

So I cannot put much stock in FFlogs when it comes to measuring DPS from a RDM.

But further says NOTHING about "prefering" it due to the "kit" in fact its the opposite.

Fair enough,
But also consider that you were talking about an "average" from FF Logs... so you have to account for the fact a lot of Red Mage DPS being submitted probably also includes a lot of RDMs who have to do exactly what I said

If you ever encounter such a scenario in endgame (out of progress or full BiS party) your task as RDM is absolutely not to res anyone but to jump off the edge and wipe that run on purpose cause you would never pass upcoming dps checks or the enrage - yet again you would know that if you would play endgame at all.

Well now you know why I don't listen to you.

My groups succeeded the first time through no wipes even when they should have. From the sound of your statements... yours failed.

We succeeded, where you given your words, wiped and failed.

[Neela]

I simply do not and have never spent the majority of my time DPSing in a Raid. I'm doing one of three things, my time is divided between DPSing, Healing, and Raising. So I cannot put much stock in FFlogs when it comes to measuring DPS from a RDM.

it does not match your claim of... "„that u never just dps but heal and res a lot cause it’s part of the toolkit“ my bad : /

but still...eh?...

Fair enough,
But also consider that you were talking about an "average" from FF Logs... so you have to account for the fact a lot of Red Mage DPS being submitted probably also includes a lot of RDMs who have to do exactly what I said

still shows that you dont understand how parses work - those who act like you dividing your time in heal/res/dps are at the very bottom of the % rankings if at all (grey% waaaaaay below avg). Those "avg"-% the community takes for examples are the upper ones (75% is still called avg btw) and trust me NO ONE in the upper % is gonna heal or res at all. Dont talk about statistics if you dont know how the data is gathered/generated.



Delusional?
Yeah, you.

You do not have a single savage clear, nor a single ex-trial mount (aside the ones you can buy with mogry tomes) that alone is an insult for the whole discussion - you are running around in 460gear with a 450 2nd ring and crafted weapons (no upgraded Tome? No Hades?)..... so you haven't even maxed out your main chars gearset, not to mention that your materia melts are wrong - but all that aside tell me in which content did u succeed, while i fail hard?... your "grp" succeed in what? I highly doubt you even have a static at all... nor a "successful" grp who likes to run with a handbreak like you.

I took that sentence cause it was YOUR example - how on earth is that connected to me and my runs? Is that how you react if your back stands to the wall? talking even more bullsh, cause u run out of arguments hmm...? ...well if that's the case you dont have to talk you also can visit me on zodiark at any time - we run whatever you like together in a grp you definitely dont have to heal/res. there we go. Please show me how to RDM or even better how to SMN in person and your deep understanding of the game itself. Im bagging you, pls... q.q


No? : (


Let me guess, beyond your big mouth is nothing to show off - so you sadly will never take this invitation – you are right im really delusional here, sry q.q
But if you unlikely want to stand your ground and proof your claims for once - im waiting with cookies... oh and dw I will downgrade my gear to your level just to be fair :3 ...and yeah it slowly becomes personal if you start to spread rumors on top, sure you wanna take that route? ^^

[Gruntler]

Those "avg"-% the community takes for examples are the upper ones (75% is still called avg btw)

To be blunt, the sorts of people who do are not good enough at math to make the sort of claims they generally do. The mean is never calculated, and the median is 50th percentile by definition. As well, 75% is not the top quartile of all parses, it's the top quartile of everyone's best parses. Parses that are less than the best are not considered for percentile purposes.

Just a nitpick.