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    yeah „simply“ understand the terms ABC, PreCast, SlideCast, Weaving & the use of not only selfbuffs but buffalignments & worst-case utility (when to red or even heal)... those things u can’t buy with a booster potion or master by reading the tool tips.

    The basics are way more important than any tooltip or rotation u blindly copy but don’t understand in the first place. It’s like Kaiserdrache already said there is no shortcut for exp... no matter what u try.
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    It’s RDM lol dual cast and melee...RDM boosting isn’t as bad as like boosting a more complex job like Ninja which would inherently mess up the entire raids dps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aomine1992 View Post
    It’s RDM lol dual cast and melee...RDM boosting isn’t as bad as like boosting a more complex job like Ninja which would inherently mess up the entire raids dps
    Because nowadays TA is so much more complicated than Embolden? Don’t get your comment... if u don’t know your shit u will always mess up the grps raid dps no matter on which cls you fail, no?
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    Last edited by Neela; 01-20-2020 at 01:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    Because nowadays TA is so much more complicated than Embolden? Don’t get your comment... if u don’t know your shit u will always mess up the grps raid dps no matter on which cls you fail, no?
    Geez didn’t need all of that rudeness, but obviously RDM is one of the least complex jobs which has no negative connotation what so ever where is other jobs have complex openers and strict rotations, you didn’t get the comment because you didn’t comprehend it. Good day
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aomine1992 View Post
    Geez didn’t need all of that rudeness, but obviously RDM is one of the least complex jobs which has no negative connotation what so ever where is other jobs have complex openers and strict rotations, you didn’t get the comment because you didn’t comprehend it. Good day
    Rudeness? o.O
    It was a simple question...? If you want to be effective on Rdm (indeed one of the weaker ones atm) you have to play better than just „lol dual cast“. And even if u do you are mostly avarage in output. So tell me where exactly does Rdm have an easy life in the current state?

    It’s pretty hard to get „good“ numbers in general even knowing what u do - so yeah using a potion to even miss the basics on it won’t make it any better.
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    Here are a few pointers:

    1) NEVER, EVER, HARDCAST YOUR LONGCAST SPELLS: Verthunder, Veraero, Scatter (becomes Impact @ lv. 66), and Verraise. Always use your Dualcast trait for these.

    1a) there is an exception to this rule: If you ever enter a fight and the tank gives you a countdown (preferably 10 seconds or more) pop Acceleration at about 8 seconds. THE MOMENT you see the giant 5 for the countdown appear start hardcasting either Verthunder or Veraero then follow up with the other one. this will give you an instant "double proc". (See point 5 for double proc)

    2) Take note that your shortcast spells: Jolt, Verfire, Verston, Vercure, Verthunder II (AOE), and Veraero II (AOE) all have a base cast time of 2.00 seconds. This means you only have to spend roughly 40% of your time in one place depending on how much your personal latency allows you to move around. Use this free time to reposition as needed.

    3a) Embolden is weird in that it boosts YOUR magic attack and party members Physical Attack. Pay attention to your party makeup, especially if you have a basic understanding how the other classes play, to get the most of it.

    3b) Manafication doubles your mana bars seperately, be careful their descrepancy is not too bad. If one is 16 points lower it will be 32 lower after manafication and, therefore, put you in an imbalance. Manafication mid sword combo WILL CANCEL the combo.

    3c) Take note the timers on Embolden and Manafication are 120 seconds and 110 seconds respectively. This allows you some wiggle room to keep both buffs on similar cooldowns.

    4) If acceleration comes off cooldown while I am mid-combo I prefer to use it 2 GCDs before my combo ends so it comes back up in my normal casting rotation faster while at the same time it wont fall off after getting the 3rd stack of it off. If you are working on your mana bars POP ACCELERATION OP COOLDOWN.

    5) It is possible to get what RDM's call the "double proc". This is where BOTH Verfire and Verstone are ready to be casted as the same time. It usually happens due to the combo finisher activating the inactive one proc. Don't panic when this happens, just cast the one that is Lower then cast the element's longcast spell (i.e.: If you have the White magic bar lower cast Verstone -> Veraero. If you have the Black magic bar lower cast Verfire -> Verthunder)

    6a) Corp-a-corps is not just for starting the melee combo, it does damage so use it on cooldown.
    6b) Displacement is not just for starting the melee combo, it does damage so use it on cooldown.
    6c) If using displacement will kill you then use Engagement (which we get at level 72). It shares the cooldown and has 50 less potency but you wont jump back to your death.

    7) At Lv. 76 we get Reprise (which itself is a weak and useless melee ranges weaponskill). For the cost of 5 Black and 5 White mana it becomes a 300 potency ranged weaponskill. If you have 90/90 or better and have to wait a second to go in for your combo due to mechanics (i.e.: an AOE around the boss, tecker AOE's on the party members, or some other mechanic) pop a couple of these off until it is safe to go in or you can cast a few spell without capping the bar.

    8a) Use Swiftcast whenever you can, AND CAST A LONGCAST spell with it.
    8b) I like to use Lucid Dreaming whenever I have 7500 or less MP.

    I hope these pointers are useful. Have fun with RDM and remember you are not the "Rez Dispenser" you are a DPS job.
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    Last edited by Septonyte; 01-21-2020 at 06:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septonyte View Post
    basically everything you really need to know until 5.2
    9) In the middle of a fight, if nothing is targetable (the boss jumped out of the arena/is transitioning) you can use vercure to get dualcast. It readies you to resume the fight with Verareo/Verthunder. It's not MP-efficient, it's not a big thing, but it can give you an additional proc, help you re/de-balance your mana bars..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardox View Post
    9) In the middle of a fight, if nothing is targetable (the boss jumped out of the arena/is transitioning) you can use vercure to get dualcast. It readies you to resume the fight with Verareo/Verthunder. It's not MP-efficient, it's not a big thing, but it can give you an additional proc, help you re/de-balance your mana bars..
    OMFG, that is so second nature I forgot about it. Man I feel dumb that I forgot that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Septonyte View Post
    OMFG, that is so second nature I forgot about it. Man I feel dumb that I forgot that.
    Lol well that's not even the most important one that it seems like NO one brings up.

    Quick Cast + Verraise is important... but they forget you can do multiple raises with either Jolt + Verraise or Cure + Verraise.

    Unlike the other jobs your Verrraise is always a quick cast if you do it right.

    For some reason no one ever seems to bring this one up though.

    So even though its got an excruciatingly long cast time You can completely nullify and "Quick Cast" Verrraise at any time.

    EDIT: As to the original post, Honestly I couldn't say as I've never used one of these Level Raisers. I would advise against it though. I suppose at least RDM isn't as complicated as other jobs, but there's a lot of tricks you learn as your going up the levels that you could know otherwise, because experience really is the best teacher in this game. I remember taking it up in Stormblood, but because so much time had passed since I had played, I literally started a new character on another server and took it up from the ranks from scratch again just to see the changes first hand.
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    Last edited by Silverquick; 01-22-2020 at 03:49 AM.

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    I can tell you why...

    1. It’s obvious to use raise after dual cast proc like others use swift.
    2. You STILL don’t get that heal & raise on Rdm are JUST worst, worst, woooorst case scenarios which you should avoid as long as possible. (Using them to generate a dual cast in downtimes is another case but surely not „the most important one“)

    Actually i start believing you just don’t want to improve or learn anything... that are pure BASICS on your cls...
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    Last edited by Neela; 01-22-2020 at 10:14 PM.

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