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  1. #1
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    Macleod's Avatar
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    Elric Ashmore
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    Gilgamesh
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    Viper Lv 100

    Machinist Lunchboxes Should Match Weapons - It is WAY past time.

    This is a major oversight in the job's development since its inception. Our machinist lunchboxes have no appearance change at all based on what the weapon actually looks like. This has always been a major annoyance for me when it comes to glam (the real endgame).

    This is completely unfair considering bard's quivers change based on the weapon, and samurai's saya (scabbard) change based on the weapon, and I think astrologian's card holder thing changes too? (not sure since I don't like healing and have barely ever played astro) You decide to also give machinist a weapon with a "built in" accessory, yet you ignore the fact that it always looks the same (terrible), and never matches your weapon, or anything else you want to wear (and being able to dye them is irrelevant, because that's only based on the weapon itself being dyeable, the lunchbox still doesn't match).

    At the very least, put in the minimum effort and just make an option to hide them so I can lower my annoyance level enough to feel like playing Machinist again. I know some people won't care, and I know many people do...not that I think this should be any kind of priority, just some day (hopefully soon)...please fix this massive years long oversight in the job's design.
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    Enkidoh's Avatar
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    Enkidoh Roux
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    The reason the aetherotransformer does not change appearence to match whatever gun you have equipped is it was specifically made by Stephanivien for you, it's one-of-a-kind and custom made for you using the MCH's Guild's own theories on magitek, so it's natural weapon stores do not sell different ones.

    I guess some kind of glamour for it through the MCH's Guild made by the Skysteel Manufactory under Stephanivien's direction might be possible, but to be honest, unless there was a lot of player requests for it, I don't see SE implementing such a minor cosmetic change sadly.
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    Leo Lupinos
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Since weapons and helmets can be hidden, we could at least get a option to hide it, or in form of macro similar to the option to adjust Bahamut size.

    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    The reason the aetherotransformer does not change appearence to match whatever gun you have equipped is it was specifically made by Stephanivien for you, it's one-of-a-kind and custom made for you using the MCH's Guild's own theories on magitek, so it's natural weapon stores do not sell different ones.

    I guess some kind of glamour for it through the MCH's Guild made by the Skysteel Manufactory under Stephanivien's direction might be possible, but to be honest, unless there was a lot of player requests for it, I don't see SE implementing such a minor cosmetic change sadly.
    That is not enough justification. Since the exterior could be easily modified by anyone.
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    Elric Ashmore
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    The reason the aetherotransformer does not change appearence to match whatever gun you have equipped is it was specifically made by Stephanivien for you, it's one-of-a-kind and custom made for you using the MCH's Guild's own theories on magitek, so it's natural weapon stores do not sell different ones.
    That sounds like a stupid lore excuse to half-ass their weapon design. It shouldn't be any surprise to SE that people want to glam stuff and MATCH. Making a stupidly rigid design choice like that is tremendously short-sighted.
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    Enkidoh Roux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macleod View Post
    That sounds like a stupid lore excuse to half-ass their weapon design. It shouldn't be any surprise to SE that people want to glam stuff and MATCH. Making a stupidly rigid design choice like that is tremendously short-sighted.
    Except gear design and restrictions on how they are used has been deliberately implemented since the beginning because Yoshi wants the lore of the game to be consistant - it's why AF gear is Job restricted even when used as glamour for instance, he stated this way back during the Beta test.

    People may want to 'mix and match' gear for glamour (and even I've had times I've seen gear I would like to glamour on another Job but are unable to due to gear restrictions), but the development team have decided to make it more restrictive and given fully logical reasons for doing so, and are not going to change their stance on this. That's just being realistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Yeah, I'd love the ability to hide it - there's way too much clipping with many of the outfits/emotes I use.
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    I'd be perfectly happy with being able to hide it. Its main purpose is to justify why we never run out of ammo, but nobody really questions why bards never run out of arrows, or ninjas out of kunai, or any other ranged/thrown weapons.
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    Vice Shark
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    Samurai Lv 100
    And here I am just wishing the handgun models could be equipped at the waist or leg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Elric Ashmore
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Except gear design and restrictions on how they are used has been deliberately implemented since the beginning because Yoshi wants the lore of the game to be consistant
    I'm not saying anything about not wanting the lore to be consistent, I know and agree it is important. I'm saying it was a stupid lore decision in the first place to explain the lunchbox in a way that severely limits the appearance customizability of only ONE JOB in the entire game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Except gear design and restrictions on how they are used has been deliberately implemented since the beginning because Yoshi wants the lore of the game to be consistant - it's why AF gear is Job restricted even when used as glamour for instance, he stated this way back during the Beta test.

    People may want to 'mix and match' gear for glamour (and even I've had times I've seen gear I would like to glamour on another Job but are unable to due to gear restrictions), but the development team have decided to make it more restrictive and given fully logical reasons for doing so, and are not going to change their stance on this. That's just being realistic.
    People wearing bikinis as tanks is totally acceptable though.
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