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  1. #21
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    I don't see this really happening
    It would be nice but this game is pretty AU unfriendly just with promotional events,Servers and Mogstation not even able to do AUD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barraind View Post
    Arson.

    Theyve arrested 200 people so far for their part in it, all of whom have received payments in the last 3 months from an organization known to fund political extremism.
    As someone actually living in Australia, there are many reasons why bushfires start, but a warming climate makes bushfires a lot worse and a lot harder for emergency services to handle, it's the primary reason why this current outbreak of fires is so bad.

    On another note, I do like how you don't name this organization you mention, I can't think of a single group in Australia that would pay for bushfires to be lit, and given the crisis I'm sure said organization would get slaughtered legally by our government. Also, you say 85% of the fires were started by arson but one of the articles you linked has a statement from the NSW Rural Fire Service Inspector saying that most of the fires were started by lightning or embers from already existing fires.

    EDIT: On the actual topic of the thread though, I'm not really interested in getting something just because a bad crisis is happening in my country. Awful stuff happens everywhere in the world so it really wouldn't be fair on others who have a disaster and get ignored.

    Another EDIT: By the way, if anyone wants to donate directly to the firefighters instead of through a third party charity, here's a link to the NSW rural fire service: https://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/about-us/fundraising
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    Last edited by Zephera; 01-07-2020 at 04:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    Keep irl issues out of my game please tyvm.
    Well, this irl issue is affecting my gaming, I have friends in Oz who play this game, one hasn't played since the fires started. I don't want them to lose their homes or their lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    It's the Asstral Calamity, wrought by the dread primal Bahabutt.

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    As someone who lives in California, I can definitely empathize with Aussies currently going through this. It sucks. And the reason I asked what Australia's position on climate change was is because here in the US, we have an administration that is doing everything in its power to deny climate change, including withdrawing from the Paris Agreement and many other smaller things that all add up.

    As a result, any time there is a natural disaster in the United States, it makes dealing with them by our emergency services so much more difficult than it already is. I just really don't understand what people have to gain from denying climate change. It doesn't matter if you're liberal, conservative, independent or even non-political, what's happening to the planet quite literally affects all life on it. And I really do mean all life. That includes us.
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    This sounds familiar.

    Part of an article at https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-...media/11846434 (ABC being our public broadcaster):

    Fires misinformation being spread through social media

    One area of misinformation has been the hashtag #ArsonEmergency on Twitter.

    Queensland University of Technology (QUT) researcher Dr Timothy Graham analysed 315 accounts posting #ArsonEmergency and said a third of them displayed highly-automated and inauthentic behaviour.

    He said the topic appeared to be attracting a "suspiciously high number of bot-like and troll-like accounts".

    The ABC found many of the suspicious accounts were amplifying unproven suggestions arson had been the overwhelming cause of Australia's disastrous bushfire season.

    Several Twitter users were misrepresenting a media report about police investigating whether some of the fires were deliberately lit, despite the same report noting the blazes on the NSW South Coast were likely caused by lightning strikes.

    Some incorrectly quoted Australian police as having dismissed the link between the fires and climate change.

    An article posted by an American far-right figure went one step further, claiming left-wing ecoterrorists were responsible for lighting the blazes.
    The "nearly 200 people arrested" claim is also shown as an example of social media misinformation.

    Links shared on social media are NOT a reliable news source.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 01-08-2020 at 11:29 AM. Reason: Added article heading and bolding for emphasis because people are still repeating this claim further down the page.

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    Alright, people, the climate change hype train started again *choo chooo*

    Let's be honest: No one of you would change your life considerably to even remotely avoid in future what is happening right now. I've recorded Germany's "Friday for Future" protests and could overhear a local radio station's interview. What people said there was absolutely ridiculous: "I do not drink so much from plastic bottles anymore" - but I heard nobody saying: "I walk or use the bicycle to work".


    Let's see what is causing bad effects on the climate:


    * You would stop having bananas, coffee, soy, chocolate - here 80% of the people already put down the "Safe the climate" signs. The cargo ships take bananas from Costa Rica for weeks, then transports it to production and then again to the stores via trucks.
    * Computers and cellphones have a horrible ecological footprints as their parts are made of precious materials, gathered by kids whose childhood really has been stolen (not like a spoiled kid names Greta).
    * For the U.S. (and Australian) residents: Who of you would sell your car and use the bicycle?
    * Who of you would allow the gas price to climb by several times tomorrow?
    * Who of you would stop using general heating and wake up with a sore throat in winter because it has 4°C in your home?
    * Who of you are supporting equal hot spots in the African and Indian world?
    * Who of you are care only about temporary incidents (fire) unlike long-term problems (agriculture)?
    * Who of you would donate ONCE for the Fire Services instead of a monthly fee? (I get "Charlie Hebdo" flashbacks with the 2-week hype that stopped over night)
    * Who of you would want to have your power bill increased by 550% in order for renewal energy taxes starting tomorrow (I can tell you: It's not so fun!)
    * What is your profession to make a living? Think about the following: Do you drive? Do you use a computer? Do you trade with locally grown/manufactured goods? Do you want to stall international trading?
    * Server parks for games like this consume lots of power and hardware - see above.
    * Check where your clothes are coming from. How does it come from India or Pakistan to the U.S.A.?
    * Check your refrigerator: What's packaged in plastic?
    * Do you like to take cold showers? I don't.

    This list goes on and on. By merely being an "Internet Greta" you won't change anything, and you must do almost the full list above to have a significant impact on the climate. Forever. Not just "a couple of days without coffee". Which will send you back into the stone age basically. I am sure at one or two bulletins, many of you go "Nah! Never" already, but everything else is placebo. There always have been bushfires. There also have been absolutely catastrophal winters in Central Europe ('78 IIRC for example) that happened once and never again, but nobody ever made a fuzz about it. Now there is a massive fire spreading, just a bit more massive then the fires back then. No need to go full 2012!


    So, go ahead and enlist for the fire services or donate $100/month and not just for the next two weeks. I am fully aware of the change. I have no car. I ride the bike or walk. I live in a small home with almost no power and heating consumption. I do not drink coffee or smoke (tobacco imports). I was never on a ship or plane for travel. All that stuff you don't care about anyways. But how about YOU?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKusakabe View Post
    Alright, people, the climate change hype train started again *choo chooo*

    Let's be honest: No one of you would change your life considerably to even remotely avoid in future what is happening right now. I've recorded Germany's "Friday for Future" protests and could overhear a local radio station's interview. What people said there was absolutely ridiculous: "I do not drink so much from plastic bottles anymore" - but I heard nobody saying: "I walk or use the bicycle to work".


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    This is so unnecessary. Climate shaming should be the last thing to do when OP is a climate victim. Almost everything you said is so untrue. Bills won't go up by 550% and there are already electric cars and electric planes soon to be developed. Please have some compassion towards wildfire victims instead of shaming people for not doing enough (I guarantee you everyone tried their best). Why do you have such hatred? Greta Thunberg did so much for us and we should be grateful instead of being so cynical. The dangers of being cynical is that we fall into the trap of victim blaming and climate shaming, causing climate victims and climate minorities to not dare to speak up, which is exactly what you're causing right now. Cede the room to Australian wildfire victims please, let them tell the world the grave consequences of climate change. This is not your turn to speak.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavis79 View Post
    Australia is experiencing devastating wild fires all across thier continent, so as a means of us as adventures to make a real world difference I want to ask the FFXIV Game Developers to please create a Kangaroo mount for purchase on the online Mog Station store. For this mount however have all proceeds from customer purchases to be used as a donation fund for the Wildlife of Australia. They need heros both big and small to help make a difference and save a life. Let us, the Warriors of Light/Darkness, be there for our neighbors in Australia!
    I support this :P
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    ^ And this is what we call letting perfection be the enemy of good. Could more be done? Obviously. Does that make the efforts being made worthless? No.

    Regardless of the cause, it's a problem that needs help.

    Regarding OP; while it seems like a selfish request from someone who just wants a kangaroo mount at first glance, these sorts of fundraisers are very effective. Blizzard does a yearly Make-A-Wish mount/minion that regularly raises millions from people who would not otherwise donate. And by now we've surely all heard the case of $750k or more donated in return for a model's... "personal" photos.

    If you offer something that players want in return for donations, it will very likely generate more donation money than we could convince SE to give off their own bottom line.

    I also agree with post #2 in that it would be a nice gesture for SE to commit to data centers that use more renewable energy. Renewables are becoming cheaper, so it's almost self serving for them. There's little to no downside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harmonea View Post
    ^ And this is what we call letting perfection be the enemy of good. Could more be done? Obviously. Does that make the efforts being made worthless? No.

    Regardless of the cause, it's a problem that needs help.

    Regarding OP; while it seems like a selfish request from someone who just wants a kangaroo mount at first glance, these sorts of fundraisers are very effective. Blizzard does a yearly Make-A-Wish mount/minion that regularly raises millions from people who would not otherwise donate. And by now we've surely all heard the case of $750k or more donated in return for a model's... "personal" photos.

    If you offer something that players want in return for donations, it will very likely generate more donation money than we could convince SE to give off their own bottom line.

    I also agree with post #2 in that it would be a nice gesture for SE to commit to data centers that use more renewable energy. Renewables are becoming cheaper, so it's almost self serving for them. There's little to no downside.
    I admire that model. She literally is so brave
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