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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKusakabe View Post
    Alright, people, the climate change hype train started again *choo chooo*

    Let's be honest: No one of you would change your life considerably to even remotely avoid in future what is happening right now. I've recorded Germany's "Friday for Future" protests and could overhear a local radio station's interview. What people said there was absolutely ridiculous: "I do not drink so much from plastic bottles anymore" - but I heard nobody saying: "I walk or use the bicycle to work".


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    This is so unnecessary. Climate shaming should be the last thing to do when OP is a climate victim. Almost everything you said is so untrue. Bills won't go up by 550% and there are already electric cars and electric planes soon to be developed. Please have some compassion towards wildfire victims instead of shaming people for not doing enough (I guarantee you everyone tried their best). Why do you have such hatred? Greta Thunberg did so much for us and we should be grateful instead of being so cynical. The dangers of being cynical is that we fall into the trap of victim blaming and climate shaming, causing climate victims and climate minorities to not dare to speak up, which is exactly what you're causing right now. Cede the room to Australian wildfire victims please, let them tell the world the grave consequences of climate change. This is not your turn to speak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKusakabe View Post
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    I don't drive, but since my family lives rurally, and thus bikes and walking would be too far, they use an electric vehicle. Which, since they own an electric car, electric companies lower your power bill as part of a government scheme, which is pretty nice. Almost 1/3rd of our farm (which is really just a large lifestyle block, we don't do intensive farming) is regenerating native forest, so we are actually have a negative carbon footprint, and my dad is looking into maybe selling some of the carbon credits to get a bit of extra cash to plant some more native trees.
    I have almost finished my degree in ecology, (just 4 more papers!) so I can get a job to help the environment, and since my mum and my husband has been diagnosed with type 2, we don't eat chocolate anymore, and I have never liked coffee.
    Some of us are doing our part :V

    Due to my studies,I've come to the opinion that it's really the large companies that profit off destroying the environment that should be making the greatest change. Many people simply don't have the income to change to better habits for the planet, and work to the bone for those that make a huge amount of money from trashing the environment.
    There was literally a tannery in NZ that was dumping all the waste into the local river, and when they were told to stop, the tannery pretty much said that if they would stop, hundreds of people would lose their jobs, so they got away with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    It's the Asstral Calamity, wrought by the dread primal Bahabutt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKusakabe View Post
    What people said there was absolutely ridiculous: "I do not drink so much from plastic bottles anymore" - but I heard nobody saying: "I walk or use the bicycle to work".
    Plastic is a big issue, and cutting down on the amount of bottles used is definitely not a "ridiculous" step to take. It might not be the biggest or best step, but it's a step, and if everyone did it (and hopefully something else too) then it would have a big impact - more than a small group of people doing everything you listed.

    This is exactly what large-scale climate action is about. Not everyone has the commitment to do every element of what needs doing. But if everyone did something, it adds up to a lot.

    Also, what if the person already rides to work? What if this is an additional resolution they've made, or the first one that came to mind? What if they listed ten different things they're doing, and the radio station cut it down to one point they considered worth mentioning?

    Saying "you wouldn't do all these drastic measures so your contribution isn't significant" is exactly the argument people use to say they don't need to do anything at all. It's the argument our government is making - "we only contribute 1% of global emissions, so it's not our problem" - but if a hundred countries all had 1% each and they all say that.... well.

    You can't hope to do everything. Thats why we need everyone to do a small amount each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavis79 View Post
    Australia is experiencing devastating wild fires all across thier continent, so as a means of us as adventures to make a real world difference I want to ask the FFXIV Game Developers to please create a Kangaroo mount for purchase on the online Mog Station store. For this mount however have all proceeds from customer purchases to be used as a donation fund for the Wildlife of Australia. They need heros both big and small to help make a difference and save a life. Let us, the Warriors of Light/Darkness, be there for our neighbors in Australia!
    I support this :P
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    ^ And this is what we call letting perfection be the enemy of good. Could more be done? Obviously. Does that make the efforts being made worthless? No.

    Regardless of the cause, it's a problem that needs help.

    Regarding OP; while it seems like a selfish request from someone who just wants a kangaroo mount at first glance, these sorts of fundraisers are very effective. Blizzard does a yearly Make-A-Wish mount/minion that regularly raises millions from people who would not otherwise donate. And by now we've surely all heard the case of $750k or more donated in return for a model's... "personal" photos.

    If you offer something that players want in return for donations, it will very likely generate more donation money than we could convince SE to give off their own bottom line.

    I also agree with post #2 in that it would be a nice gesture for SE to commit to data centers that use more renewable energy. Renewables are becoming cheaper, so it's almost self serving for them. There's little to no downside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harmonea View Post
    ^ And this is what we call letting perfection be the enemy of good. Could more be done? Obviously. Does that make the efforts being made worthless? No.

    Regardless of the cause, it's a problem that needs help.

    Regarding OP; while it seems like a selfish request from someone who just wants a kangaroo mount at first glance, these sorts of fundraisers are very effective. Blizzard does a yearly Make-A-Wish mount/minion that regularly raises millions from people who would not otherwise donate. And by now we've surely all heard the case of $750k or more donated in return for a model's... "personal" photos.

    If you offer something that players want in return for donations, it will very likely generate more donation money than we could convince SE to give off their own bottom line.

    I also agree with post #2 in that it would be a nice gesture for SE to commit to data centers that use more renewable energy. Renewables are becoming cheaper, so it's almost self serving for them. There's little to no downside.
    I admire that model. She literally is so brave
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    I mean it's terrible what is happening over there, but they're still in denial what is happening is caused by Climate Change. Opting instead of murder 10,000 camels seeking water vs tackling the actual underlying cause of the issue.

    (Not that my Government is much better)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElazulHP View Post
    I mean it's terrible what is happening over there, but they're still in denial what is happening is caused by Climate Change. Opting instead of murder 10,000 camels seeking water vs tackling the actual underlying cause of the issue.

    (Not that my Government is much better)
    The camels aren't native and are basically feral, it's pretty standard to cull invasive introduced animals to ensure they don't out-complete native wildlife.

    EDIT: Since the 200 arsonists claim is being repeated on this page, I feel it necessary to reiterate that the NSW Rural Fire Service Inspector stated that the majority of fires were caused by lightning strikes and embers from existing fires. The actual amount of arsonists charged in NSW is 24 people, not 200. Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-...media/11846434
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephera View Post
    The camels aren't native and are basically feral, it's pretty standard to cull invasive introduced animals to ensure they don't out-complete native wildlife.
    Yeah, NZ does Deer culls all the time for this reason, and hunting in general is encouraged. Especially possum hunting, since invasive species are so destructive to ecosystems. It's why I wear possum fur gloves in the winter :3 Hunters get paid for the fur, and I get to keep my hands warm
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    It's the Asstral Calamity, wrought by the dread primal Bahabutt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElazulHP View Post
    I mean it's terrible what is happening over there, but they're still in denial what is happening is caused by Climate Change. Opting instead of murder 10,000 camels seeking water vs tackling the actual underlying cause of the issue.

    (Not that my Government is much better)
    1. It's caused by 200+ arsonists (IN NSW ALONE)
    2. Camels are an invasive species that get culled annually.
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