SMN - Enhanced Ruin misbehaving?

[Mansion]

Appreciate the opener being posted!

Ping can affect it somewhat since latency delay affects the pet order going out in a timely manner. The actions ghosting is why we recommend things in a certain order, and why we don't recommend using an Egi Assault with Summon Bahamut or Firebird Trance weaved in the same GCD, as that's a surefire way to getting a ghost because of the Egi despawning before the pet command resolves - unless you deliberately delay the Summon/Trance, which is also not ideal.

Well those resources you guys have been working on are very good, thank you so much for all that effort

Thanks for the reply on the ping too!

[RylaBee]

from more observation: Devotion can sometimes trigger up to almost 1,5 GCDs later after Aetherpact.
This can happen even in middle of the fight. Its very easy to "eat" it.

so bad design..

[Silverquick]

If this is the same bug, I'm thinking of then its been around literally forever.

I am shocked they never fixed it and that it now spread to the new abilities.

It used to do this back in the day too. While it never ate any of my Contagions (back when that was in the game) it did eat more than its share of my Enkindles.

I do not remember it eating a Rouse or Spur though. But it might have as I usually used them in conjunction with each other so might not have noticed.

[Mansion]

from more observation: Devotion can sometimes trigger up to almost 1,5 GCDs later after Aetherpact.
This can happen even in middle of the fight. Its very easy to "eat" it.

so bad design..

It can happen yeah, especially if you did something like "Egi Assault" and weaved Aetherpact into this GCD. And yesterday I stupidly double weaved Aetherpact/Firebird Trance. I had the Devotion animation but no one got the buff.

So : Aetherpact should launch from the SMN, please.

I do not remember it eating a Rouse or Spur though. But it might have as I usually used them in conjunction with each other so might not have noticed.

I think Rouse and Spur were not affected because it was from the SMN to the pet only, while Enkindle and Aetherpact are "from the SMN to the pet to the target/team" so that's were it can get clunky.

[Neela]

It can happen yeah, especially if you did something like "Egi Assault" and weaved Aetherpact into this GCD. And yesterday I stupidly double weaved Aetherpact/Firebird Trance. I had the Devotion animation but no one got the buff.

So : Aetherpact should launch from the SMN, please.

yeah that happens to me a lot even tho I know how to correct it but dbl-weaving those two seems so logical... a shame that the code/animation log is so bad we have to deal with ghosting instead <.<

[Silverquick]

It can happen yeah, especially if you did something like "Egi Assault" and weaved Aetherpact into this GCD. And yesterday I stupidly double weaved Aetherpact/Firebird Trance. I had the Devotion animation but no one got the buff.

So : Aetherpact should launch from the SMN, please.



I think Rouse and Spur were not affected because it was from the SMN to the pet only, while Enkindle and Aetherpact are "from the SMN to the pet to the target/team" so that's were it can get clunky.

Well it certainly explains why it was Enkindles that got eaten back then.

You used to use Rouse + Spur + Enkindle. Three pet actions all in a row. Rouse and Spur together gave this insane damage boost to the pet. Together they were like 60% or 80% damage bonus to the pets attacks.

Which you really needed for Enkindle back then, which had an equally insanely long CD. It was like 5-10 minutes or thereabouts so you'd only use like one of them for the entire fight... and losing one to Pet Queue overloading was painful.

I suppose its probably not as noticeable these days since the CD is so much shorter and missing 1 out of 4-5 during a given boss fight could easily be missed.