Retainer Quick ventures

[TheMightyMollusk]

I just like to see what they bring back. Sometimes it's cool stuff, like rare orchestrion rolls or furniture. Sometimes it's dyes or materials that make a good profit. Sometimes it's fish. Who knows? It's a game.

[Krotoan]

Im doing quick ventures whit my retainers lvl80 and I always get the message:


''Your retainer's current gear should improve chances of finding rare items.''


My DoL are geared whit best gear available atm 460/430 ilvl and my DoW are ilvl460+ but still get always this message.


Whats the stats/ilvl i need to get in order to not get this message again (and probably better loot)?


Thanks!

That message is only posted when your retainer breaks a certain gearscore threshold. if you no longer wish to see that message you would have to DOWNGRADE their equipment. However since it's present it sounds like their gear is fine.

All it means though is there is a larger pool of random items they can come back with, including some relatively rare and valuable ones that aren't available if they don't meet gearscore requirements.

[SekkerOfTrust]

That message is only posted when your retainer breaks a certain gearscore threshold. if you no longer wish to see that message you would have to DOWNGRADE their equipment. However since it's present it sounds like their gear is fine.

All it means though is there is a larger pool of random items they can come back with, including some relatively rare and valuable ones that aren't available if they don't meet gearscore requirements.

Ok, i missread the message and though I should improve even more the stats/ilvl to get best prizes.

So once you recive this message, lets say at DoW ilvl450, if gear the retainer at 470 the chances of worth stuff are the same then?

[Krotoan]

Ok, i missread the message and though I should improve even more the stats/ilvl to get best prizes.

So once you recieve this message, lets say at DoW ilvl450, if gear the retainer at 470 the chances of worth stuff are the same then?

I'm reasonably sure there's no particular difference once you've cross the "can get rare items" threshold as there is no noticeable change in the message even when you have your retainer kitted out in near BIS items. The pool is determined mostly by (I think) the job of the retainer and their level. I won't state these as fact because I don't know for sure, but I've been getting the same things others have reported as "super rare" while just having the bare minimum to trigger the message. Also note it cares about ilevel, not appropriate stats (all my DoL retainers are wearing castoff DPS accessories and still get the rare message) .

[Espritduo]

I'm reasonably sure there's no particular difference once you've cross the "can get rare items" threshold as there is no noticeable change in the message even when you have your retainer kitted out in near BIS items. The pool is determined mostly by (I think) the job of the retainer and their level. I won't state these as fact because I don't know for sure, but I've been getting the same things others have reported as "super rare" while just having the bare minimum to trigger the message. Also note it cares about ilevel, not appropriate stats (all my DoL retainers are wearing castoff DPS accessories and still get the rare message) .

Your item level is the only thing that matters for battle retainers, but gatherers solely look at your stats, with item level meaning nothing. Gathering is what determines the rare item threshold as well as the amount of items brought back from regular ventures. Perception increases the amount of HQ they bring back as well as reducing the amount of time it takes for them to do a venture. You saw no real effect from equipping battle accessories on your retainers because gathering accessories tend to not have any stats on them but GP.

Also, your level and class mean nothing for quick ventures, even if sometimes it feels like it does because your monk retainer brought back a pair of claws once or twice. Any level and any class retainer can bring back any "non-rare" item. And once you meet the requirements, the rare item pool is the same for any class as well.

[tdb]

Perception increases the amount of HQ they bring back as well as reducing the amount of time it takes for them to do a venture.

Incorrect. The time needed for mining/botany/fishing/hunting venture is determined solely by the level of the retainer. The base is 60 minutes, at 10 or more levels above the venture level it will take 50 minutes and at 20 or more levels above it will take 40 minutes.

[Krotoan]

Your item level is the only thing that matters for battle retainers, but gatherers solely look at your stats, with item level meaning nothing. Gathering is what determines the rare item threshold as well as the amount of items brought back from regular ventures. Perception increases the amount of HQ they bring back as well as reducing the amount of time it takes for them to do a venture.

For quick ventures? I have the most expensive NPC gear on all my DoL (I have one of each) but only my Fisher brings back "items most rare" and has the notification message that their gear is sufficient enough AND their gathering and perception is lower than the other two.

[Espritduo]

For quick ventures? I have the most expensive NPC gear on all my DoL (I have one of each) but only my Fisher brings back "items most rare" and has the notification message that their gear is sufficient enough AND their gathering and perception is lower than the other two.

Because fisher lacks a proper offhand, its threshold for rare items (and other gathering related thresholds)is much lower than miner and botanist.

[Blindheart]

Spent a month after SHB launched constantly sending out quick ventures so I could get a retainer fantasia. Got a lot of house decorations, couple of radios for my rooms. And a lot of junk. Finally got bunny retaier in the end tho, don't think I've ever seen this message tho... Although I have weird chat filters and don't see a lot of what other people see

[Erendis]

Are you sure you are not confusing it with parrotbeak etc sets? I farmed loads of quick ventures during event and and after and never got Garo piece. Since you say you already got 3 Garo pieces, they can't be rare...

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