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  1. #31
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    Maetimoht Berkbraena
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    Arcanist Lv 51
    I'd like sole survivor back, but your living dead, TBN, and blood weapon changes aren't wanted from me.

    Living Dead can be healed up quite easily if you coordinate with your healer or if they are just competent in general.
    Why do you want to outright nerf TBN.
    There's a sweet spot with blood weapon to hit all 5 if you do it on melee. Can't do it on spells, but oh well! Try getting some skill speed materias and go for 2.36~2.38 and activate Blood weapon on 75% of the GCD refresh.
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  2. #32
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    Zzz' Zzz
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaticDodo View Post
    I'd like sole survivor back, but your living dead, TBN, and blood weapon changes aren't wanted from me.

    Living Dead can be healed up quite easily if you coordinate with your healer or if they are just competent in general.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quor View Post
    LD requires a bit more preparation compared to the other invulns, but not by much. The only one that is "safe" at all times is HG. Holm and SB work best by preparing your healers for it, which isn't any different than LD. LD also has the advantage of a longer overall duration of immunity when used correctly (10s vs the 8 of Holm and SB).

    While I sympathize with people who have issues with LD in solo content, outside of Eureka I've never found myself at a loss for survivability on any of the tank jobs.
    Umm excuse me, does this mean the other 2 Healers aside from WHM could handle Living Dead in not high level content now? I haven't look into healer for a while now did that changed while I wasn't looking?.
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    Last edited by cactuarzzzz; 01-06-2020 at 12:22 AM.

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  4. #33
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    Vann Wood
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    Adamantoise
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    Dark Knight Lv 83
    LD, being the healer CD that it is seems like it is needs benediction, to get the most out of it. I say that because I haven’t had a healer comp that didn’t include WHM that healed me up to max hp - granted that was on the first ex trials and may have been prior to sch and ast fixes.

    Since I’ve come back to ffxiv I’ve seen many post that sch and ast can now make that happen so great! BUT there is the issue having a measure of control. WHM has complete control (outside of there being no onscreen graphic to relay information about where in the invulnerable phase you are in - another issue) and the others do not.

    SE seems resistant to touch LD in any way despite being the one of the biggest gripes of DRK mains since it’s release. Considering that it’s balanced around the idea of having 10 seconds invulnerability and it’s drawback of needing a max heal I have an alternative in the tldr...

    TLDR: I would propose making bene a role action. This is suboptimal in my mind since I’d still like to be able to use DRK for taking on outdated content. But it is an option.

    Let the hate responses begin!
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  5. #34
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    Tuya Bayaqud
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaticDodo View Post
    SCH: Excog -> Recitation -> Emergency Tactics + Adlo, and maybe 2 Lustrates will heal it.

    I'll get back to you on AST. It's totally possible, I don't know why you think WHM is the only one capable of doing it quickly
    Being forced to chain burn so many reosurces is the very definition of a bad mechanic, not counting that the invulnerability goes off instantly when the DRK gets healed enough. A good alternative would be being forced to heal at least 50% of the DRk max hp while being inmune to damage for the entire 10 seconds. If the DRK doesnt get healed he dies like he does now
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  6. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaticDodo View Post
    SCH: Excog -> Recitation -> Emergency Tactics + Adlo, and maybe 2 Lustrates will heal it.

    I'll get back to you on AST. It's totally possible, I don't know why you think WHM is the only one capable of doing it quickly
    You mean this https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Recitation Lv.74 ability? Doesn this mean it isn't possible/excredibly hard for SCH to handle Living Dead before lv.74?
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  7. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhearil View Post
    A good alternative would be being forced to heal at least 50% of the DRk max hp while being inmune to damage for the entire 10 seconds. If the DRK doesnt get healed he dies like he does now
    But wouldn't it still make DRK the only tank who can't survive his immunity ability on his own?
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  8. #37
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    Alaeacus Orlandeau
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    To Mr.Yoshida and dev. [DRK 5.2 Request]:

    Please give me a better incentive to play DRK's "complicated" rotation over Paladin's less complicated rotation. Right now, I have almost ZERO reason to do all the extra button presses only to be equal or "on par" to Paladin.

    Also, survival rate in sub-par parties is NOT equal in my experience. I don't care what anyone says to the contrary. 9/10 times in roulette, somebody from my team is not yet a good player. 5/10 times that person is the healer. When I'm on DRK with a not-good healer, we usually wipe. When I'm on Paladin with a not-good healer, I Hallowed and Clemency that party to victory (solo often-times). I can't count the number of times I've been the only person alive in my 24-raid party as a Paladin (or myself and one healer in 8-man) and STAYED alive purely through Clemency while other party members are being raised. It's become a very common occurrence at this point.

    There is NO way I can do the same as a DRK only possessing a crappy heal skill locked by a 1-minute timer and an even crappier heal locked behind a three-hit single target rotation. No freakin' way.
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    Last edited by Alaeacus; 01-07-2020 at 03:17 AM.

  9. #38
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    Ziero Rehw-bidit
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    Malboro
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alaeacus View Post
    To Mr.Yoshida and dev. [DRK 5.2 Request]:

    Please give me a better incentive to play DRK's "complicated" rotation over Paladin's less complicated rotation. Right now, I have almost ZERO reason to do all the extra button presses only to be equal or "on par" to Paladin.

    Also, survival rate in sub-par parties is NOT equal in my experience. I don't care what anyone says to the contrary. 9/10 times in roulette, somebody from my team is not yet a good player. 5/10 times that person is the healer. When I'm on DRK with a not-good healer, we usually wipe. When I'm on Paladin with a not-good healer, I Hallowed and Clemency that party to victory (solo often-times). I can't count the number of times I've been the only person alive in my 24-raid party as a Paladin (or myself and one healer in 8-man) and STAYED alive purely through Clemency while other party members are being raised. It's become a very common occurrence at this point.

    There is NO way I can do the same as a DRK only possessing a crappy heal skill locked by a 1-minute timer and an even crappier heal locked behind a three-hit single target rotation. No freakin' way.
    I don't think your personal anecdote is a good way gauge job performance. I think there's something wrong with the way you play if you can't survive as DRK with your average pug healer.
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  10. #39
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    Akane Fofane
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by cactuarzzzz View Post
    TBN:
    Recast Time increase from 15 seconds to 60 seconds.

    when you reach into your back pocket for TBN because you got used to spamming it but now it's on a 60 second cooldown

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  11. #40
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    Zzz' Zzz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gneo View Post
    when you reach into your back pocket for TBN because you got used to spamming it but now it's on a 60 second cooldown

    Hmm... Is this convey how vulnerable and incompetent the current DRK would become without the current TBN?

    Imagine Myste humming and singing in the shadow "Without Me, You're only You ~♪"
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    Last edited by cactuarzzzz; 01-07-2020 at 07:44 AM.

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