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  1. #11
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    Alaeacus Orlandeau
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    Paladin Lv 80
    I Clemency all the time. I even Clemency pretty much every time I use Veil, because I never assume Random-PUG-Healer#567 even knows how to proc Veil's activation (or is even paying attention during their dps-spam-tunnel vision). A little loss in my dps rotation is acceptable, when the trade-off is helping keep the party alive.
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    Dixie Nesquik
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    Jenova
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    Paladin Lv 80
    The why is that those plds suck at their job, no more and no less.
    Theres no reason you shouldn't be doing your magical rotation (excluding clem, which is emergency only)

    I have been seeing more and more plds spam clem and never use attack magic as you said and as a pld main it hurts my soul, not sure where this trend came from.
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  3. #13
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alaeacus View Post
    I Clemency all the time. I even Clemency pretty much every time I use Veil, because I never assume Random-PUG-Healer#567 even knows how to proc Veil's activation (or is even paying attention during their dps-spam-tunnel vision). A little loss in my dps rotation is acceptable, when the trade-off is helping keep the party alive.
    If it actually 'is' helping the party live that's one thing. But under normal circumstances, a pld hitting clemency is just overhealing. Unless the healer(s) are down or just not doing their role well, clemency is just wasted. It's better to let the healers do their job and bust clemency out during emergencies.
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    Alaeacus Orlandeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    If it actually 'is' helping the party live that's one thing. But under normal circumstances, a pld hitting clemency is just overhealing. Unless the healer(s) are down or just not doing their role well, clemency is just wasted. It's better to let the healers do their job and bust clemency out during emergencies.
    I agree, but I personally spend 99.99% of my game time in PUGs, quite often in Raids. Many healers don't know the content and think keeping me at 20% health during a Tank Buster charge is appropriate. Many healers care more about reviving the Bard who has already died two times and begin ignoring the tank. Many healers don't even have half their skills in their rotation.

    So your scenario where a healer is actually doing their role, is usually only 50% of my world. The rest of the time I have Clemency ready to go. I give no sh*ts about the dps loss of using Clemency. We would have killed the enemies .5 seconds faster if I didn't use Clemency. Big freaking deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaeacus View Post
    I agree, but I personally spend 99.99% of my game time in PUGs, quite often in Raids. Many healers don't know the content and think keeping me at 20% health during a Tank Buster charge is appropriate. Many healers care more about reviving the Bard who has already died two times and begin ignoring the tank. Many healers don't even have half their skills in their rotation.
    You either have the worst party luck on the planet or are playing incorrectly yourself because in the near 1000 dungeon, raids, and trials i've completed i've rarely ever had problems with healers leaving me to die to tank busters.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    The same reason ice mages exist, or the many other incarnations of DPS that ignore most of their rotation.

    They're probably watching netflix or something as they play, and they just don't care about the extra complexity. Making forum posts won't change them.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Palibun View Post
    You either have the worst party luck on the planet or are playing incorrectly yourself because in the near 1000 dungeon, raids, and trials i've completed i've rarely ever had problems with healers leaving me to die to tank busters.
    Anecdote vs anecdote. YMMV ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    Kane Blackstone
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    I still miss having raise
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    Chloe Lehideux
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    When i played my pld for the first time at lvl 80 i was lost on which skills should i use first. So i always started with physical combo because i tought it will be better to apply dot and using other physical cds in fyf buff before going into magic dmg.
    Thats why you see so many plds with full mp so often, because they are not playing it optimised.
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    Jim Berry
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    I remember using my MP spells a lot. People would question it. Now, the question is why aren't PLDs using MP spells...!?
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