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  1. #11
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    VarkingRunesong's Avatar
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    Varking Runesong
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    Siren
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    Red Mage Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by Archwizard View Post
    So on the one-hand:
    • The method explained for "resurrecting" here is similar in mechanics to what players have expected of a Beastmaster job, which is a bit more prominent throughout the series than Necromancer itself.
    • As CKNovel pointed out, the requirement to summon by "collecting" monsters from other dungeons would require it to be a limited job, as much like BLU abilities, there would be no means to balance the job around the expectation of having X staple monster in your arsenal at any given time.
    • Even if we ignored those aspects and shot for a "full job" Necromancer iteration, the classical iteration plays much like the current SMN does: a heavy emphasis on pets and DoT effects.

    ... On the other hand, I've personally thought it would be a very interesting Healer job. Drain life from enemies to transfer it to allies, summon and sacrifice minions, transform allies into various Undead to give them buffs like vampirism or ghostly evasion, curse enemies to deal less damage, bonuses to resurrection and execution, and so on.
    I know it's not quite a match to the FF5 Necro, but in fairness, the FF5 Necro was basically suped-up BLM + SMN with permanent Undead status. I think we could make something a bit more creative.
    This actually sounds really cool and if it were an expansion job it would put a lot of people playing healers again. Well done, man.
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  2. #12
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    icy_'s Avatar
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    Icy Tease
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    Jenova
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Archwizard View Post
    I mean if it's all the same to you...

    ... I've written up a Necro Healer concept once or twice myself to throw in the ring.

    Though I would worry more about turning this into a thread that might be better served in the Healer subforum if it goes much further...
    Okay, so like what was done in Guild Wars 2. There, (and to use FF terms here) the Healing Necromancer build was essentially shield-style proactive with ability to "Rescue" on short cooldown. It could also help team members proc lifesteal. The issue in that game was that it brought almost no useful support buffs.

    Quote Originally Posted by AsheYehara View Post
    I was just throwing a general idea out there, I don't mind how the idea is used I just want to see some kind of fun, creative class that focuses heavily on Resurrection or life-steal. Thank you for the concern though Leidiriv!
    Agreed with the lifesteal concept -- a different sort of reactive WHM's Medica II or melee dps' Bloodbath style buff that heals party members as long as they continue whacking enemies. Perhaps a longer duration to account for not always having an enemy around or the slow speed of attacks. As long as this Siphon buff is active, party members would be doing extra damage with their attacks (as the lifesteal concept implies, it's both a damage and a heal).

    As for Resurrection, if you're referring to the actual res of dead party members, I'd prefer to not have an OP resurrector. People should still have a healthy fear of death and not bank on someone always there to insta res them. I'm actually appalled at the number of multi-death clears I've seen in normal content. If a pull is so horrible, then it should lead to a wipe and force everyone to restart. Just earlier today, some of the World of Darkness bosses completed with a dozen or more people showing a fully dead state. I've seen a bunch of dungeon boss kills with the tank and sometimes the healer dead. Anyway...

    Necro is a cool concept, but it's basically already done in Summoner, as far as I can tell. Control minions, apply conditions, spread these conditions.
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