Players Purposefully Despawning Forgiven Gossips Are Not Being Punished

[Darty123]

I would really he carefull here I'm not sure of the whole context, if they are coming out saying they are intentionally ruining or trying to not spawn the SS rank that would be really bad but some people are just ignorant and don't know, look at the diadem special mission back in heavenward. There was alot of people accusing of messing up back then but alot of it was just a lack of knowledge. Hopefully the SS spawns for you to enjoy it

[KageTokage]

It would be easier to just allow them to reset like a normal mob until their timer runs down at which point they can either despawn on the spot or despawn if they reset.

I think they actually mentioned that making hunts into FATEs would be difficult due to technical reasons. I think they could realistically have a simpler alternative like giving hunts an debuff aura that lowers the player's damage output based on how much they exceed the hunt's level by or some such or even just a defense buff that scales based on how many players are present to discourage low-manning weaker hunts. If they're going to continue giving out rewards proportional to group content I don't see any issue with them taking time to kill even as the gear levels continue to bloat.

I would really he carefull here I'm not sure of the whole context, if they are coming out saying they are intentionally ruining or trying to not spawn the SS rank that would be really bad but some people are just ignorant and don't know, look at the diadem special mission back in heavenward. There was alot of people accusing of messing up back then but alot of it was just a lack of knowledge. Hopefully the SS spawns for you to enjoy it

The same few people have done this several times and they specifically wait at the spawn point for one of the minions in advance on BLU so they can immediately despawn it by killing themselves with Self-Destruct. They are also well-aware of the spawn conditions for every other hunt.

It's way too deliberate and recurrent to be a happy little accident.

[GojuSuzi]

Regardless of the intent of the individual(s), it does sound like the mechanics need to be changed. I am interested in hunts but don't have the confidence to commit to groups: I join in when I see one in the area I am in, or I hang around nearby to watch (sometimes on a job that's way too low, because why does it matter if I'm not engaging?). This mechanic means that I could, unwittingly, be in the wrong spot and thus ruin a whole bushel of people's efforts. And I'm sure I'm not the only one. This, as well as unfairly punishing hunters for something outwith their control, discourages players who may be curious but not yet ready to commit from checking out what all the yelling is about. Furthermore, making the spawns trollable like this also means hunt communities are encouraged to 'go dark' (can't get into a LS/Discord without being heavily vetted and vouched for, no more announcements in zone or in public groups, etc.), which makes it even harder for newer players to get involved. And obviously now us casual/spectator types should be scared to just pop along and see what's up for fear of accidentally ruining a spawn and getting blacklisted as a suspected troll.

So yeah, if not for the sake of the hunt community, then for the sake of the newbies who may one day want to join in on hunts, the mechanics should be changed to prevent one person despawning stuff (intentionally or not). Seems like the current system is just 'everyone loses'.

[tdb]

Fair enough. I can see why people would abandon the kill if they think it's just overall wasted effort.

[KageTokage]

Sounds like 1000 bytes is still doing his thing.

It's sort of appalling how he hasn't been banned yet.

I have a hunch the people doing the minion trolling are on level-skipped alt accounts just because they don't want to risk a permaban on their main accounts while they go about testing the limits of what they can get away with without being punished.

The others tend to just add fuel to fire by making snarky, dismissive remarks towards to the inevitable angry shout chat mob that forms in the wake of a successful despawn.

[My_Wet_Rooster]

Surely square, if they were serious about stopping griefing, could figure out what accounts are all linked to the same IP, card or whatever. Could just eliminate it all right there.

I've had a conversation with one of the people who do this and tried to plead with them to stop as it's making people upset. The response I got was no, they won't stop, and the reactions they get from people is entertaining to them. They love the notoriety & the salt.

I'm just shocked Square is sitting on their hands about this for as long as they have.

You could have reported them to a GM for griefing, using that conversation as evidence.

[MeowTo]

He still can actually as long as he remembers the date and time frame.

[Alucard135]

Gotta love some purges every once in a while.