How would people feel if they took positional requirements away?

[RyuDragnier]

I would rather they didn't. MNK is braindead enough, as is DRG before you get the Wheeling Thrust and Fang and Claw. If it wasn't for the positionals, MNK would be incredibly boring.

[tdb]

Ninja has flank positional. "Armor crush" that exctends your Huton, to be precise.

I stand corrected. At least it only needs to be used once every 30 seconds, unlike monk's rotation which needs changing positions after every couple of attacks.

[Gemina]

There are some things about PvE that I gripe about, but positionals isn't one of them. I know that when I play my SAM and get synced down to pre-Kenki gauge levels where positionals don't matter, I still do them anyway for the added engagement, at the same time though I don't mind when facing bosses that don't have a break in their target ring.

Basically, they're fine as is in my book. I vote they stay.

[Raltar]

I think positonals are fine as long as there is only one. Monks are very unfun to play because you have to keep going from flank to rear. If they had only rear or only flank, it would be a lot better.

[Powercow]

Removing positionals without adding in some new system would be the final nail in the coffin for Monk. It has nothing else. Even for the other melee they'd need something new as well, lest they become just more simplistic with nothing to show for it.

[Edax]

Removing positionals without adding in some new system would be the final nail in the coffin for Monk. It has nothing else. Even for the other melee they'd need something new as well, lest they become just more simplistic with nothing to show for it.

Is constantly moving from the flank to the rear truly that engaging?

[RyuDragnier]

Is constantly moving from the flank to the rear truly that engaging?

It's keeping you awake enough to stay alive during fights, else we'd have lolMNK instead of lolDRG.

[VirusOnline]

Removing positionals without adding in some new system would be the final nail in the coffin for Monk. It has nothing else. Even for the other melee they'd need something new as well, lest they become just more simplistic with nothing to show for it.

As NiN main you could take away positionals and really it'd be the same difference gameplay wise or performance wise. Sure you might not perform as well, but it's not a game changer in the least like it is in MNKs case.
I always think of ranged when I think of positionals. Their classes let's say have comparatively same amount of abilities as melee. They aren't bogged down by having to meet a positional requirement. They can move freely. So literally what's the point of positionals if not for the "lore" of being melee.

I can think of it this way, though :
Caster classes require standing still in most cases. BLM is the most extreme example.
Physical ranged classes are the most freeform, but comes with the takeaway of less dps. DNC for example.
Melee classes require positionals to be met if you want to perform to the best of your potential. MNK being the most prime example.

Melee has one disadvantage the other two don't suffer. They must endure disconnects in lieu of mechanics. Ranged, be it physical or magical, are free to move around and dps whether or not mechanics threaten any range of them.
MNKs positionals are easy and make sense, but after a while you start to question : why apply to the core of all melee ? It starts to feel like a melee gimmick rather than a unique MNK mechanic.
The only way I could think of changing things up is to apply positionals in a unique circumstance or rewarding players for meeting positionals in any other way than adding 10p for meeting requirement.

I heard a good comparison of BLM maintaining enochian. If a melee can meet positionals in an entire combo, reward it. Give it a reason of being.

[Rai_Takara]

Without positionals melee lose a lot of optimization thought and it would further dumb down that role. It's already being trivialized this tier with easy to Levi and Titan just being a giant omnipositional boss most of the time and the rework to True North making further trivializing it. Melees need to keep their positionals.

On the other side I keep seeing people wanting the ranged DPS as a role to do more damage. If they want that, then I think ranged should have distance positionals where they need to be at optimum distance to do the full potency of their moves.

[Shurrikhan]

Been thinking about this lately. I mean, on the one hand, some people would feel that melees would be too brain dead easy, but others would say that positionals add a level of complexity and challenge to the jobs.

I mean I always wondered if people find positonals stupid gimmicks they we shouldn't have to sweat over.

The game's been simplified enough as is. It's not a great mechanic, but it at least gives melee a reason not to hardware-macro their combos together and sleep until the next oGCD. I'd much prefer it stay.