Quote Originally Posted by Angus-Beef View Post
I'm not saying you're wiping parties but there are plenty sadly plenty of people who used the same *I play for fun* as an excuse to not pull weight in runs.

This is something in Dungeons, EX trials, Savage, it's so common place now that it's sad. So again I don't see why it's fair for people in content that's meant to be a challenge to have to regularly see people not pulling their weight, say *I play games to have fun* and be the first ones who bitch about not being able to do savage yet have literally the rest of this game dumbed down for the sake of their inability to put together 2 braincells.

It might sound odd, this might come as a surprise but I have fun in ff to, but when a 15 min is turned into a 35 min run, because people can't be bothered to learn the basics, it's get really fucking old really quickly.
Then it's on you to do better recruiting, be quicker to dismiss those you feel aren't improving or co-operating in a civil manner. It'll be on them to find a party that'll tolerate their performance or work with them to improve. Again, finding people that work well with you, is part of the game.