Ahh, I see we're going this route.I rarely run into braindead people in roulettes that I do and I do a ton of them with the many alts that I have. People running with parsers open all the time need to understand that there is a large segment of the community who could give a hoot about them and yes they play this game for fun.
I can certainly understand the need for them in Savage and even to an extent for extreme primals but they certainly aren't needed for casual play and the braindead meme on this forum gets pretty old.
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And how is using parsers to optimise your output for the top-tier play analogous to the analogy contained in your meme, which relates to knowing the basic rules of the game? You can know the rules of chess without knowing all the grandmaster strategies. Don't conflate the two just because you like dunking on filthy casuals.
Their is quite the difference between "knowing the basics" and "not knowing a damn thing, and facerolling your keyboard, or not using half your kit."And how is using parsers to optimise your output for the top-tier play analogous to the analogy contained in your meme, which relates to knowing the basic rules of the game? You can know the rules of chess without knowing all the grandmaster strategies. Don't conflate the two just because you like dunking on filthy casuals.
The best example I can give is healers. You could post a thread about healing, and a good chunk of these forums would tell you that healers shouldn't/don't have to DPS, to play your own way, don't worry about DPSing at all - some would say that even for savage content.
I'm no where near a top-tier player, but it's things like that which ultimately end up pissing me off because a good chunk of the players are being fed this bullsh*t stupid "just play your way" thing. It's really not how the game works. You don't have to be a "elite toxic raider" to deal decent damage - you just need to read your tooltips, which is something a lot of people don't seems to be able to do. Hell, I'm not even parsing other players - but it's clear to me when someone is not playing their class correctly (mostly healers) and is basically griefing the party because "I'll play the way I want" or "you don't pay my sub".
The issues at hand aren't that the raiding player-base are expecting casual players to get in their level, it's that the playerbase that knows even the basics want people playing the level 80s in the DF to actually KNOW THE BASICS.
Just look at one of the posts above.
This is exactly why people get pissed off.I have no interest in improving my performance, I play this game for fun.
This is why we have Ice Mages, and non-dpsing healers.
These aren't elite raiding tactics, these are the basics, and that mentality has no place in a multiplayer game.
Which was exactly my point. There are many of us casuals who do know the basics, actively seek to improve, and yet aren't aiming to master the skills required for top-tier content. We play the game for fun, and have no interest in what a parser says about us, but we're not so daft that we neglect all but 3–4 of our skills or fail to output any kind of DPS while on healer. This is the sort of player that LaylaTsarra was describing, and yet you used the meme you did, implying that we don't even know what game we're playing.Their is quite the difference between "knowing the basics" and "not knowing a damn thing, and facerolling your keyboard, or not using half your kit."
The best example I can give is healers. You could post a thread about healing, and a good chunk of these forums would tell you that healers shouldn't/don't have to DPS, to play your own way, don't worry about DPSing at all - some would say that even for savage content.
I'm no where near a top-tier player, but it's things like that which ultimately end up pissing me off because a good chunk of the players are being fed this bullsh*t stupid "just play your way" thing. It's really not how the game works. You don't have to be a "elite toxic raider" to deal decent damage - you just need to read your tooltips, which is something a lot of people don't seems to be able to do. Hell, I'm not even parsing other players - but it's clear to me when someone is not playing their class correctly (mostly healers) and is basically griefing the party because "I'll play the way I want" or "you don't pay my sub".
The issues at hand aren't that the raiding player-base are expecting casual players to get in their level, it's that the playerbase that knows even the basics want people playing the level 80s in the DF to actually KNOW THE BASICS.
Just look at one of the posts above.
This is exactly why people get pissed off.
This is why we have Ice Mages, and non-dpsing healers.
These aren't elite raiding tactics, these are the basics, and that mentality has no place in a multiplayer game.
You're arguing thinking this is aimed at you then.Which was exactly my point. There are many of us casuals who do know the basics, actively seek to improve, and yet aren't aiming to master the skills required for top-tier content. We play the game for fun, and have no interest in what a parser says about us, but we're not so daft that we neglect all but 3–4 of our skills or fail to output any kind of DPS while on healer. This is the sort of player that LaylaTsarra was describing, and yet you used the meme you did, implying that we don't even know what game we're playing.
=/=actively seek to improve,
I have no interest in improving my performance,
One thing is not to know all the *grandmaster strategies*.And how is using parsers to optimise your output for the top-tier play analogous to the analogy contained in your meme, which relates to knowing the basic rules of the game? You can know the rules of chess without knowing all the grandmaster strategies. Don't conflate the two just because you like dunking on filthy casuals.
Another thing is to play tic-tac-toe while others play chess.
Casuals are not so rainbow and butterflies themselves too. While it's ok not to be a *top tier* player, it's not ok to go into high end content and expect being carried because you're lazy since you've decided to play your own game.
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