Parsing? Drama? ToS? Solution!

[Barraind]

Do you think SE would have to take some sort of action to continuing protect the much larger casual player base over the much smaller and using non sanctioned tools high end progression group.

Squeenix needs to realize this isnt 1999 and you cant force people to play full screen where alt-tab crashes your game.

That was the first couple years of EQ, and people tolerated it, because hey, this is new and exciting.

And those of us who raided parsed combat logs at the end of the night because we didnt have a way to measure dps in game or in real time, but still needed to know who was worth keeping around and who wasnt.

And when the next wave of MMO's came out, the raiding community, as a whole, said "we need tools to figure out whats going on". And devs listened. And either implemented those tools or allowed those tools to exist.

We're 20 years later, and we're still using timed enrage as a wipe mechanic in MMO's, which means people who raid still need to be able to tell who is pulling their weight and who is terrible to the point you cant realistically save them from themselves.

[Omymy]

I would love to have a setting in party finder that you can only join a high end party if you can cleared SSS in x time, or allow folks to join that parse blue and above.

These last few days PF has been garbage with parties barely able to pass content, dps and mechanically. Just because you were carried to your first clear does not mean I have to waste time trying to continue to carry you. Your grey/green parses do nothing but lower my game experience, how is that fair to me when I just want to farm stuff. why do we need to carter to lowest common denominator. if they want to play casually and grey/green, great, form a party just like everyone else. Parse is a tool, and while not the end all be all factor, it does assist in gauging someones potential.

If you're so good and elitist, make a group of super cool people and play with them. Potato.

[SturmChurro]

Can i be in?

Sure! If you want to waste time hitting a stupid dummy before you can actually do any content. A dummy that would literally have no bearing on the actual content you are doing it for.

[Omymy]

Sure! If you want to waste time hitting a stupid dummy before you can actually do any content. A dummy that would literally have no bearing on the actual content you are doing it for.

Ah... Churro, Churro... You didnt catch the joke.

[Teros]

If you're so good and elitist, make a group of super cool people and play with them. Potato.

awe someones feelings are hurt, that is part of the issue you cannot make a group in PF and say blue parse and above only, because you get banned because some grey parser gets butt hurt.

[Omymy]

awe someones feelings are hurt, that is part of the issue you cannot make a group in PF and say blue parse and above only, because you get banned because some grey parser gets butt hurt.

I couldn't care less about your tryharder airs and graces. It's just funny how frustrated you are over a few color bars.

[Kleeya]

Aren't the pretty colors on fflogs percentage based ? If everyone without any exception would suddenly become super good at the game, and dealing a bare minimum of 20k dps while the best players would deal 23k, there would still be tons of 20k grey parsers right ?

Do you think some people would still be then like "Omg are you only auto-attacking or something ? Shaaaaaame, shaaaaaaame, please learn how to play you grey parser, how can you do only 20k dps ?" XD

[Teros]

I couldn't care less about your tryharder airs and graces. It's just funny how frustrated you are over a few color bars.

is it frustrating to wait in party finder for 20+ min to have someone join that is mechanically inept, because they either got lucky on their clear or was carried, then waste 2-3 pulls to learn they are not good, i would say yes, yes that is frustrating. is it tryhard because you would like to avoid that and not waste your time, nope, not in the least. my time is as valuable to me as yours is to you, and i would like to spend it on accomplishing a set goal. if you are casual that is perfectly okay, there is zero issue with allowing groups of people to form groups in party finder how they want.

[Omymy]

is it frustrating to wait in party finder for 20+ min to have someone join that is mechanically inept, because they either got lucky on their clear or was carried, then waste 2-3 pulls to learn they are not good, i would say yes, yes that is frustrating. is it tryhard because you would like to avoid that and not waste your time, nope, not in the least. my time is as valuable to me as yours is to you, and i would like to spend it on accomplishing a set goal. if you are casual that is perfectly okay, there is zero issue with allowing groups of people to form groups in party finder how they want.

Make your cool group of tryhards and stop crying, child.

[Halivel]

Aren't the pretty colors on fflogs percentage based ?

They are, and the color is determined at minute you upload the info and will not change after this. You can fall into "good" area at 1st week when everyone had same gear and you managed to play good, then fall into "bad" 3 weeks later with same gear and performance cuz you had a beark from the game just because in that period of time enough people upgraded their armor and uploaded their runs there to outmatch you.
In fact color at that website means literally nothing except "look how I am shiny in comparison to others", but people still care about it as if it says something, while the only way to understand if person is any good is actually seeing him in action and to being able analyse the situation.