Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
I really love that all of your points boil down to basically telling me that expecting the basics of understanding a multiplayer team-based game is all on my hands when my teammates don't know the basics.

It's really not, and this situation isn't this black-and-white.

I'm more so talking about the DF, as in the PF - well, I have a static for savage/EX content. If we join with anyone who isn't pulling even the basics, we will remove them.

Telling me that when i queue for the DF that if I get someone who doesn't know anything about the class they are playing, afking, doing whatever is what I signed up for - well that's a load of crap. That's not how it works. It's not my job to carry people, and honestly nothing can really change my mind on that. You're wrong. End of story.
This is where I see you're not paying attention.

Nothing in what you said disagreed with my statements.

Let's break down the points:

It's the responsibility of the group leadership to make the call to remove members who are no preforming well or is no willing to improve - we agree here.

It is not your job to carry people who are under-performing. - We agree here as well.

You seem to think that me telling you that you have to be good at discerning whether or not a person will work with your group is the same as me telling you that you must accept every player walking in the door.

That's not what's being said here.

What's being said is that you (I'm guessing your static leader specifically) has to have the people skills to properly recruit and discern whether or not the person being added in your group is going to work well with the rest of his or her group. (usually this takes an attempt or few) That ultimately it's the responsibility of leadership to make those decisions.

It is also the responsibility of each and every member of the game, per the ToS, to be respectful of one another, and part ways when things don't work out, without harassing one another. Every other excuse you try to put into this is irrelevant to those points.

It is my opinion that most situations can be diffused with proper communication skills in this game.

So, let's be clear here - When you signed up for DF, you did sign up to occasionally run into that person who expects to be carried. But, you don't have to carry them. You DO have to not be rude about it, and that's not even my words - that's the ToS talking.