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    Angus-Beef's Avatar
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    Nayuta Miyumi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    Just want you to take a second and think of what you said. Now think you are SE. Lets see if we can agree on a few things before going on. SE has tried to set the bar low, they want the game to be inclusive as possible, and they allow tools with a don't ask don't tell policy. Now imagine the very casual players SE tries to help by making the game easier in the first two points. Those players are being excluded heavily by a tool that is a don't ask don't tell. It might not even be that they are being excluded based on that alone, but the perception by a certain percentage of the players. Still following hopefully. Do you think SE would have to take some sort of action to continuing protect the much larger casual player base over the much smaller and using non sanctioned tools high end progression group.





    I have come to the wish about meters and similar tools. Make the third party tools illegal and the sites that post numbers from them take them down. Have what they deem high end progression exclude any random party making. And give those people a dps meter and a finished number that they can screen shot. Once they deem those instances no longer high end with ilvl increase remove the meter. They have meters, they have recorded stats in pvp, and they seem to be able to hide meters. Included it with patches. They don't find a solution that some what works this is only going to get worse.
    You realize that's what the majority of the high end player base has been doing and SE has stopped us yet right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angus-Beef View Post
    You realize that's what the majority of the high end player base has been doing and SE has stopped us yet right?



    Yes it has been happening quietly, right? It seems like a few of the crankier people can't keep quiet and are getting in trouble. Probably not the kind of attention you guys like. SE also seem to be a little more active, do they not? Maybe this will all simmer down to the status quo. But threads like this don't help, people in instances who don't know to stay quiet don't help, and streamers who should know better don't help either.
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