[request] Could we please fix 2b leggings for lalafell?

[LittleImp]

As far as using a child to model clothes - Lalafell barely hit 3' as a max height. I'm thinking a kid was probably easier to find vs. a dwarf for sizing purposes. In addition to that, the exert mentions how the outfit was outfitted for adventuring. I've never once thought that the outfits have looked like children's clothes. They fit in just fine with the other racial outfits (several which also include a dress/skirt variety for their females).

You may not think they do, but the developers who iterated and created those outfits in-game do.

Prominent FFXIV related discords have been slapped with de-partners, warnings and bans over Lalafell related uh... content, because to the outside observer it's impossible to reasonably differentiate. Heck, the guy who runs the largest Lalafell Discord was straight banned from Discord because of his... proclivities.

[GhostMoonstride]

You may not think they do, but the developers who iterated and created those outfits in-game do.

Prominent FFXIV related discords have been slapped with de-partners, warnings and bans over Lalafell related uh... content, because to the outside observer it's impossible to reasonably differentiate. Heck, the guy who runs the largest Lalafell Discord was straight banned from Discord because of his... proclivities.

You cherry picked a single point of my post. You flat ignored, or didn't read all the comments about how they are cute, therefore children - and then ironically keep using their cute clothing and looks as justification for their being children. You flat ignored that the game, SE, and the lore, depicts the lalafell as adults, and small elves, but I'm doing mental gymnastics? This isn't even an opinion. It's fact. Lalafells are adults, unless specifically stated otherwise in a story.

Being cute, androgynous, short, wearing cute/childish clothing, or being hairless doesn't mean not-adult. Also, the lalafell can, and do, have beards/facial hair. Children do not.

I don't care what random people, who don't play the game, think of a drawing, out of context. Showing concept art with random clothing is not proof that lalafells are children. They are small elves. Elves are often depicted as hairless and beautiful, youthful, and androgynous. That does not mean they're not adults. It does not mean that putting certain clothing on them makes anyone a pervert.

My mother is very short, and shops in the children's section often, for herself. She's 60. Is she a child?

There are other races which are small and/or cute. Nu mou. Goblins. Dwarves. Mammets. Are they children? No? Because they aren't cute? Aren't elven with mild resemblance to humans?

This really boils down to you, and others, thinking light clothing, and nudity, is inherently sexual, and people thinking only cute humanoid looks matter, not age, or species, or direct depictions, or lore.

If someone is sexually attracted to children, that's gross. This isn't about that. Discord bans people for all kinds of random stuff that doesn't make sense. I don't care about Discord. Discord does not decide the lore for the game, or anything else for the game.

Lalafells are a small elvish race, and are adults, and can murder, pillage, battle, die, and wear what they want. SE depicts it that way. The lore depicts it that way. You're claiming SE *wants* them to be children, but the fact is they don't depict them as children, at all, unless you think heavy drinking, sex, joining armies, murdering, and being courtesans is normal for a child.

In the end, the point is that it's annoying that all the other races get one look, but it's "made more modest" for lalafell, at random times, even though they're able to wear equally "revealing" clothing in other instances (Coeurl briefs, fish-net stockings, high heels, etc).

[SturmChurro]

Yeah no, we don't need butt armor on lalafells. Full stop.

It would look weird as heck anyway. We are talking about the 2B butt right? The shape would look obnoxious in the first place.

[TwiibieTwuu]

Yeah no, we don't need butt armor on lalafells. Full stop.

Don't know why lalas (the curvy race) have to be excluded from the butts.
We don't need butt armour on any of the races.

This post is more about fixing how they look. Replacing the tiny pixelated panty with the same sized one the other races get.

[Kacho_Nacho]

Well, it is true.


"Originally modeled on a spirited kindergarten-aged boy. The smock and satchel were adapted for adventuring. It occurred to me after that if Lalafell were taller, this might resemble a <can't read> in Dragon Quest<someone with better eyes confirm this last bit?>



As far as using a child to model clothes - Lalafell barely hit 3' as a max height. I'm thinking a kid was probably easier to find vs. a dwarf for sizing purposes. In addition to that, the exert mentions how the outfit was outfitted for adventuring. I've never once thought that the outfits have looked like children's clothes. They fit in just fine with the other racial outfits (several which also include a dress/skirt variety for their females).



I'd say Lalafell fall more into the chibi category as they are definitely cute and tiny and a bit more exaggerated in their shape than the other races. I do think that Lalafell, out of all the races, are definitely the most childlike - but I've never viewed mine or any as an actual child. The game also doesn't view or treat them as children either. As it was mentioned earlier in this thread, there are Lalas doing plenty of horrible things in this game, none of which would be suitable for an actual child to be taking part in.

I totally agree.

Lalafell are chibi. That's their niche in this anime based game.

As part of this niche, they have an "openness" and express their emotions for all to see. In Japan, that makes them childlike.

Just find it kinda weird how some people can fix this issue while a group of devs cannot.

Whoa! Not going to share the link because it's a bannable offense to use the add-on. But, I'm impressed by the artist's work.

This post is more about fixing how they look. Replacing the tiny pixelated panty with the same sized one the other races get.

Definitely. I'm not seeing why folks are trying to take this request down the "it's sexualizing children" road. It's a simple request to fix a gear issue.

[MrKusakabe]

Says the grown man playing a child character and taking it seriously, hahahaha.

Eh, yes. And it was also grown men who create those "child characters" and take it serious and even getting paid for it. And their success (population of Lalafell players) is pretty obvious.

But then, it's just you: Mr. "I-can-afford-more-than-two-meals-a-day" as reasoning as why Square Enix should translate this game into Spanish and his cheap attempts at trolling. I will respond just once and for the last time to you:

How is it to spend your money on a Fantasia - on a game you really dislike as seen in those WoW threads with having all jobs on Level 80 while posting on the forums you hate and cry about the moderation everytime - just to become a "child" yourself - and all the other nasty things you called Lalafell players? It's called "hypocrisy".

November 19th. Just right after you, a "grown man", behaved like a child in the Lalafell thread for hours straight (with a warning and removed posts of you), this happened.

You really need your daily internet fights, don't you? If you don't get your upvotes by attacking people's choices you can't sleep well that night, isn't it? Do you really get your kicks out of ad hominem attacks? How is it to be angry all day and resort to such nonsense? Please grow up (Which is pretty funny in this context) and learn to tolerate that people are different. That is part of being an adult.


Sincerely,

...Are......are you trying to imply that potatoes aren't food?

Are you trying to imply hares aren't food? Let's be honest, you are closer to be food there, no reason to try to distract

[lolicon09]

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[Raiya]

All I can say is the lalafell probably could've used a new body rig when they rebuilt the game to use a more "midget" body base rather than a potato body. Sadly what's done is done, probably would've saved a whole bunch of "misunderstandings" later on with certain people too not to mention design issues.

Oh and just for fun.... Japanese Yuyuhase says hello.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj6eQ7oitJo

[lolicon09]

All I can say is the lalafell probably could've used a new body rig when they rebuilt the game to use a more "midget" body base rather than a potato body. Sadly what's done is done, probably would've saved a whole bunch of "misunderstandings" later on with certain people too not to mention design issues.

Oh and just for fun.... Japanese Yuyuhase says hello.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj6eQ7oitJo

Looking at the example image in this link, it doesn't look bad, considering the popoto proportions

[Lolli282]

A fix would be nice. I would also like an option to have a hempen camise NOT be a frilly shirt. I was so disappointed when I saw I couldn't have a basic halter top too, that thing could go with SO MUCH. As it is I use the camise dyed pure white so the lace is less prevalent.

Also I wish the lala haters would find better things to do than hijack all the lala threads to boast about how much they hate the sight of them. We get it and we don’t care. Those of us who play as lalas obviously enjoy them and while I can’t speak for others I do NOT view my character as a child in the slightest. I just think she’s adorable.